From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85215 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Any way to captuer smtp output when sending mail? Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:46:15 -0400 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87zjca8m5k.fsf@dv.local.lan> References: <87wq7yllo0.fsf@reader.local.lan> <874mv2nzro.fsf@reader.local.lan> <874muiahwq.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87h9yilp6d.fsf@motoko.kusanagi> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414889249 23894 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2014 00:47:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 00:47:29 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M33459@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Nov 02 01:47:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjKB-0007mq-34 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:47:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjJT-0006Yr-Sa; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:46:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjJS-0006YZ-7l for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:46:34 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjJQ-000611-Pk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:46:33 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjJO-0001YU-Q8 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:46:30 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XkjJL-0007Ur-Ss for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-97-127-193.hsd1.ga.comcast.net ([76.97.127.193]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from reader by c-76-97-127-193.hsd1.ga.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 01:46:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-97-127-193.hsd1.ga.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9AvAQR7Yk+R5ni0IVh400iHU9Jk= X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85215 Archived-At: W. Greenhouse writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > [...] > >> Thanks... I see that is not going to happen in my setup. DaveG has >> pointed out that my sending setup probably is responsible. >> >> I use this in ~/.gnus >> (setq mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent) >> for roughly 1000 yrs or so. >> >> It ended up meaning sendmail for yrs... but now using exim4 on debian. > > Yeah, smtpmail-debug-info is only going to be relevant if you are using > the all-elisp "smtpmail.el" smtp client to send outgoing mail; mail sent > to sendmail/exim/postfix/etc. via their /usr/sbin/sendmail executables > wouldn't cross that bridge. [...] checking in to the snipped bit: `nessage-sendmail-extra-arguments' Before getting too involved in the snipped suggestion... I think I would like to ask at this point if users of smtpmail.el can offer any arguments in favor of that method as apposed to others. I know at one time, some years ago, it was about the only way to use gnus on windows. But I'm not dealing with windows in this discussion. Perhaps there are good reasons to do it and I would be better off spending my time getting setup for that. Any speed or cpu differences of note? Any other points infavor of all smtpmail.el?