From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84182 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs Cloud Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87zjm7j9he.fsf@randomsample.de> References: <877g9fxwih.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87r47ni1mu.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3deo8y0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mwiaqzjj.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87txcimrsc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ha8impk9.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87eh3mqf4t.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <871tzmm6yz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbwyks3h.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761oxqvrp.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87ha8hf7ow.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878uttf6bu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8738k1f586.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87r47klisw.fsf@randomsample.de> <87sis0fieb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ioswkzu7.fsf@randomsample.de> <87a9e7f39n.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391520323 10861 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2014 13:25:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:25:23 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M32434=ding+2Daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Feb 04 14:25:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0H-0004cw-K8 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:25:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0G-0008EJ-W5 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 07:25:29 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0F-0008ED-Lu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 07:25:27 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0E-0006cG-H2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 07:25:27 -0600 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0C-0004iv-Ng for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:25:24 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From; bh=YcAHW8NzJo8D/u5ZGDqHdn1bK2SE5cqKXEFXPEt6o3Y=; b=n0VrhWIs/tWO/2QugpY9QnAoSUs0YfkAE/cdvbVtWajpEMowCd+cKFBe5zv3AgdUSWNpwud3A1NG010RpuOdsYtYb55iGmpVWU13wrK5Ve2dbAaKUG6lxcahi8BG/jcp; Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-167-036.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.167.36] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAg0B-0002zf-A2 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:25:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87a9e7f39n.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 04 Feb 2014 07:53:08 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:84182 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:58:24 +0100 David Engster wrote: > > DE> Tassilo Horn writes: >>> David Engster writes: >>> >>>> Note that you can install GnuPG 1.x alongside GnuPG 2.x with no >>>> problems, and every recent distribution I know has packages for both. >>> >>> As far as I can see, Arch has only the current 2.0.22 version in its >>> official repository. There's a gnupg1 package with version 1.4.16 in >>> the user repository, though, but its unlikely that people have that >>> installed. > > DE> Oh well, Arch users run into problems all the time anyway. They are > DE> usually also not afraid of doing some reading, so they'll have to learn > DE> about the agent and set it up properly. > > It's not always an option. Please don't explain this away as a user > problem that can be remedied by education and effort. Not everyone > matches the "single user, single desktop" use case. I don't agree, but let's leave it at that. I've used the agent for years under various setups with no problems (and yes, that includes remote headless servers and the like). Anyone interested can read bug #15553 and gmane.emacs.devel/163708 and make up his own mind. -David