From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83206 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: XEmacs builds failing - gnus-spec.el Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 22:18:33 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87zjvmrco6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> References: <87a9nqu62k.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <5277.1368999929@rawbw.com> <8761yetyx5.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87sj1isjmw.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87li7asg2y.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871u92yuar.fsf@randomsample.de> <87a9npprn0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <874ndxppzz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppwkavy5.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369254028 24608 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2013 20:20:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 20:20:28 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31472@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 22 22:20:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFWK-0001yn-FI for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2013 22:20:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFUt-0003mf-Az; Wed, 22 May 2013 15:18:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFUs-0003mQ-1b for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 May 2013 15:18:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFUn-0006Eq-7Q for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 May 2013 15:18:53 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFUl-0001M3-9c for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 May 2013 22:18:47 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UfFUj-0001C2-Ev for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 May 2013 22:18:45 +0200 Original-Received: from 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk ([89.150.142.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 22:18:45 +0200 Original-Received: from asjo by 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 22:18:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk OpenPGP: id=21BDE416; url=http://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83206 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > However, the op is `=', not `eq'. (= (aref "«" 0) 171) returns t > in XEmacs 21.4/21.5, I verified. Could you commit 171? Yep, I have just done so. Let's see what the buildbot says. > Ah, that is the point. I forgot there's no stable XEmacs 21.5. > But please let me say, the fact is that some new Gnus features > no longer work on XEmacs (even if the code is compiled with no > error). Typical ones are the features that use url.el. Yeah... Lars writing shr.el and the lacklustre performance of XEmacs 21.5 on X on slow(ish) connections was the straw that made me switch to GNU Emacs. Paradoxically, I have yet to get used to "emacsclient" not Just Working™ over ssh (-X). > As for XEmacs 21.4, I feel it like old GNU Emacsen that Gnus dropped > the support long ago. I used to have fun to make Gnus of the bleeding > edge work for XEmacs, but I gave it up someday. You hung in there longer than could be expected of anyone, and I enjoyed the XEmacs-specific fruits of your labour for many years, so thanks for that! :-), Adam -- "Hur långt man än har kommit Adam Sjøgren är det alltid längre kvar" asjo@koldfront.dk