From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83140 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp server news.gmane.org tries to use gnutls Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 10:44:16 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87zjw5j1y7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> References: <87li7q22th.fsf@randomsample.de> <87ehdih3ta.fsf@dod.no> <87a9o6h3g7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <87y5bq319r.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761yugywn.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368002797 32034 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2013 08:46:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:46:37 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31406@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 08 10:46:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ua01C-0005Ix-97 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 10:46:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZzzL-0004s2-Qr; Wed, 08 May 2013 03:44:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZzzI-0004rn-9N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 May 2013 03:44:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UZzzC-0007VB-OI for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 May 2013 03:44:35 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZzzA-0001mF-NU for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 10:44:28 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZzz9-0003OH-5t for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 10:44:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk ([89.150.142.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 10:44:27 +0200 Original-Received: from asjo by 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 10:44:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2505ds5-by.0.fullrate.dk OpenPGP: id=21BDE416; url=http://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83140 Archived-At: Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren): >> Steinar Bang writes: >> I seem to remember newer Gnusae try to use STARTTLS if the server >> supports it. > Hm... is that a feature or a bug...? To me it sounds like a feature - default to the most reasonable thing to do. It sounds like a bug if it doesn't work, though. > Is there a way to switch it off? Alternatively: how can I make it work? > Install the cert for news.gmane.org in a place where gnutls will find > it, same as I did with the cacert CA? I don't think I have done anything like that to make it work - I may be misremembering though. Looks like I just have (require 'gnutls) and that's it. (GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1, Ma Gnus v0.8) > (BTW it would be nice if the gmane.org certs were signed by cacert > instead of being self-signed) They just have to be updated quite often, which is a {b,ch}ore. Best regards, Adam -- "Hur långt man än har kommit Adam Sjøgren är det alltid längre kvar" asjo@koldfront.dk