From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76541 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philipp Haselwarter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus Cloud Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:58:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87zkq488b6.fsf@netarch.haselwarter.org> References: <87pqr1huyy.fsf@gnus.org> <87zkq43m16.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4h8hfb6.fsf@gnus.org> <87y65omuzq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297335618 6349 80.91.229.12 (10 Feb 2011 11:00:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:00:18 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24888@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 10 12:00:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUFw-0002fz-Bd for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:00:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUF2-000097-7N; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:59:16 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUF0-00008s-GB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:59:14 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUEu-0004JR-VL for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:59:13 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUEs-0000Bt-R7 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:59:06 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PnUEr-0001ts-46 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:59:05 +0100 Original-Received: from mna75-3-89-83-43-131.dsl.club-internet.fr ([89.83.43.131]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:59:05 +0100 Original-Received: from philipp.haselwarter by mna75-3-89-83-43-131.dsl.club-internet.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:59:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 49 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mna75-3-89-83-43-131.dsl.club-internet.fr X-NSA-Fodder: Yukon Juiliett Class Submarine interception Telex Verisign X-Emacs-Acronym: Equine Mammals Are Considerably Smaller User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yPQzOXvMPwzNsM0qtEomXZiOqzU= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76541 Archived-At: "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov writes: TZ> On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:02:53 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> A .GPG file could be stored. It wouldn't be synchronized, just >>> set/get. LI> Well, it should be updated when it's updated on one of the Gnus LI> installations. TZ> Right. So I'd allow for a generic "save a file to the cloud" TZ> facility that doesn't have any of the deltas. I'm not sure that's a very good idea; there's no guarantee a .authinfo.gpg file is encrypted or anything. But I'd want to run the cloud on my own server anyways. After all, the emacs does let you shoot yourself in the foot if you insist, so, go for it. LI> You might also envision totally storage-less Gnus installations, LI> sort of. That is, `M-x gnus-ephemeral-on-the-go' that would just LI> get the data from the cloud, read a bit, and then exit without LI> saving anything locally. If you're afraid storing your secret LI> .newsrc.eld/.authinfo.gpg files on your device. TZ> Basically Google Reader. I don't like that as much as just TZ> synchronizing the configuration, although I'm sure some would like TZ> it. It seems like an extreme compared to just synchronizing the TZ> things you listed. I'd love that, just caching the authinfo and state, that way you can get a fully blown gnus experience anywhere you have a recent emacs. Sounds like what I'd want at uni. TZ> I would make a final Gnus release of the current series and start a TZ> new "Cloudy" or "Cumulonimbus Gnus" whichever way you go. FWIW I'd TZ> make it flexible enough that people can sync just their marks or go TZ> all the way up to 100% synchronized configuration. TZ> Ted Give it sane defaults, but keep configuration very fine grained, down to group level (maybe I want to read everything but my football groups at work). -- Philipp Haselwarter