From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71893 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:29:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87zkv4wbfu.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <874odcxr52.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285529404 6098 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2010 19:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:30:04 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20266@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 26 21:30:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozwv9-00055S-Lp for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:29:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozwul-0001Md-RF; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:29:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozwuj-0001MN-Os for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:29:33 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozwuf-0007Z9-7h for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:29:33 -0500 Original-Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ozwue-00041i-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:29:28 +0200 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0564E92 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:29:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=QpCRM0lasBplIitWU9bz8+YwpOs=; b=Nhj3u7z+SzNSa+r2UCBwBD4+ugydTKHXdFn8strPFgR0eDfhVHJj4DsPLBNVPCEMEzkGE9wfu/yu4vmnx0G5n51qrWdgBCmElogdZB+b+o7joLew/oyOsuoRsjMYhuU5WLDzlvDDXo04ldBUAvuv6/zPA/Kn+IOAMVnLwJGlooA= X-Sasl-enc: NTJMJIQDHUEO7JkzsQsfr4nSAh4zwydv/MKqDaYumoLI 1285529367 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (p54AF0DEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.13.239]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 031295E099C for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:29:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:07:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71893 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> So why does Gnus issue an XOVER for all articles when I hit RET on a >> group with 2 new articles without letting the agent fetch first? > > You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set? Indeed, it is set to 'some. Ok, the docs say it could seriously impact performance, but maybe a bit more optimistic variant could be used? I mean, my agent cache contains every article to that group for the last year. So as long as nobody replies to two different "arms" of a thread that is more than one year old, everything needed to build non-loose threads is guaranteed to be already there. Could there be a new value 'some-but-dont-download-only-new-articles, which downloads only new articles and tries to build the threads with a best effort style? It there's really an article missing, I'm totally happy with a phantom root. Bye, Tassilo