From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67609 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Using nnrss very actively Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87zll3zk32.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224233281 28574 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2008 08:48:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:48:01 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16060@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 17 10:49:02 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kqkzs-0001dP-Qy for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:47:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KqkxW-0002zc-AH; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:45:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KqkxU-0002zR-OJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KqkxR-00042G-Df for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.78.27]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KqkxY-0006TH-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so148579eyj.59 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:references:from :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=MIoBwlGoV0tZLSq43IF6WTDsGvVpUkHS9WXrRFStliM=; b=piMldVlOUFy6mr9d7dNYdKhTsSj/tVeWi0nn9LcJdeoVAnf3CA+qz2Cwn6MAMJuwZ5 mr9c8of++OdzyQgTYNBSMet4s7ySykYHH70AdZRi2dcE4kN16iReUA0lHUlh2AdOeX5L 0mDN+bVFvAySw8LakmcGtBnNXIaelEsNWN1Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; b=xXcRTQRBnCWzNmy2aialG68YbPYSFobMT0j+j1VhpurVW8/f5DZur578IXI1kqgf6z GupxuECeQzN7+mdNiwHNxYraBGN/5uPEzf4OItc/h1Vp6ciEOsAjBQ1RJx/BFRj5adp7 KFltpg4PxUeBdjhDWV8AMCuapIbixQjcvbkx8= Original-Received: by 10.103.240.5 with SMTP id s5mr2034627mur.62.1224233115111; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (pdc35-1-82-242-132-111.fbx.proxad.net [82.242.132.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm5533695mue.17.2008.10.17.01.45.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:45:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu\, 16 Oct 2008 19\:15\:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67609 Archived-At: Lars> Cool! :-) Lars> But can't Atom support just be folded into nnrss? The difference Lars> between Atom and RSS is kinda... not extremely big, if I recall Lars> correctly. The lack of support of ATOM is what drove me out of using gnus for rss feeds, and having to use a dedicated software for reading feeds has been painful since. I contacted nnrss original author, Shenghuo Zhu, to ask hoom whether he planed to add Atom support. But he does not, he now has other plans in other projects so he won't do it. I found myself unable to fit a transparent Atom support in nnrss.el in the time I could spend to try, but : - I'm a fairly low skilled emacs lisp user ; - I could not afford more than 3 hours to this project. Like Lars, I believe that the difference between RSS2.0 and Atom is very low, and I think most of us don't mind not having very specific support of either format. We just want to be able to browse the news hitting space bar, because any other key is way too small to be hit reliably with the left hand (yes, right hand holds a pterodactyl mug, and that's a full time job). Any taker ? -- Paul