From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67303 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Group, Summary buffers: End of line contain whitespaces Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:15:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87zlmwoyvs.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <87abfkmuko.fsf@jondo.cante.net> <86bpzlt5cq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87prnut63f.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86vdxlfdtn.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220008615 30143 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 11:16:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:16:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15754@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 29 13:17:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZ1z8-000823-RD for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:17:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ1xS-0000Zo-OY; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ1xR-0000Zb-Cn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ1xM-0006ru-TV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KZ1xO-0003MN-00 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:15:58 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7TBFsm0008199 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:15:54 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770DF1330F for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:15:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: #vK]N[`vqjuod*|)'[iD7/"3AB-ApT%fmN"LWAg@oS7OesGv~)n[OBTLM#I="J'Y^-7I I/ps7o_'IK@#-Rs{::DZ@O8yS|fexe,XslY[:dNWOb~>?mC-&i_c)say:"\IpA.5U.b]'NY;Pks{lb h.+#6%DpZuaK3dcHB`Av3zc:r!C%~s0&m,tWj]&},qg.+0ww2gK%f!:GK|wMl.I!(voY*1"^li8"~B BNG)9LvPi?^DMR-GVDnZqhu*3Hi,+g=wFhI)BL6&u{EOVEHjVEVq~d?_}lMntWAc3(6?kftjc>_f>! g0wM(qPM$d5]^TT_Qyi&L?LGVG)SHN;Gk/,pkY9,~ Mail-Followup-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-CTc-dcc1-Metrics: poseidon 1030; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67303 On Thu, Aug 28 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:01:56 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: > > MB> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> I think this is the right solution. No one has explained why we need >>> the trailing spaces AFAIK. > > MB> I don't think anyone has claimed they're _needed_. It's more than they > MB> aren't particularly harmful, and going to great lengths to avoid them is > MB> silly. > > I don't think it's silly: we're producing unneeded data for no clear > purpose, and there's no harm in removing it. If so, it should be > removed. I can do it unless someone explains why I shouldn't. IMHO it's a minor cosmetic "problem". There are dozens of real bugs that are more important to fix: I have ~200 ticked articles in ding and more in gnus.gnus-bug and gmane.emacs.*. Most of them are bug reports for Gnus. I hoped to be able to at least forward them to the Emacs bug tracker. AFAIK, there's not Emacs/Gnus function to do this conveniently yet [1]. So, if you think is worth to care about this trailing whitespace in the Summary buffer, I won't object. But I think there's much more useful and important work to do. Bye, Reiner. [1] Cf. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/93575/focus=94338 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/97827/focus=97932 -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/