From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56086 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Q]: Gnus and moderated ML and/or Newsgroup Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:11:26 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87znclt3td.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> References: <877jzpuo3l.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <871xpxdobx.fsf@daphne.gnuu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074456528 3910 80.91.224.253 (18 Jan 2004 20:08:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4626@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Jan 18 21:08:43 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AiJDu-0000Ov-00 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:08:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AiJDg-0005Ou-00; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:08:28 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AiJDc-0005Op-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:08:24 -0600 Original-Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5109A3A003C for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:08:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jay.local.invalid (h00105aa5eefe.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.123.131]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004011820082201100jdj8he>; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:08:22 +0000 Original-Received: by jay.local.invalid (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F8FB22D966; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:11:26 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring In-Reply-To: <871xpxdobx.fsf@daphne.gnuu.de> (Thomas =?iso-8859-1?q?H=FChn's?= message of "Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:57:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56086 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56086 ding@daphne.gnuu.de (Thomas H=FChn) writes: > Also sprach Jeremy Maitin-Shepard : >> Just out of curiosity, I wonder why the moderation package is not >> included in the standard Gnus package. > I think this may explain it (comment from gnus-mdrtn.el): > ;; This package is designed for enabling moderators to do various > ;; spiffy things while moderating groups. Some of these things are > ;; rather evil if done by non-moderators -- cancelling other people's > ;; articles, including Approved headers and so on. So while this file > ;; is GPL'd and there therefore is no distribution restriction -- > ;; please do not put this file at any public sites. All people who > ;; want a copy can get one, but let's try to keep this potentially > ;; dangerous package out of the hands of Evil People, ok? Pretty > ;; please? > Whether this really works is a different question, but at least I have > not noticed anyone putting it on my.gnus.org. *g* I will admit that I haven't really looked into the workings of nntp very much, but my impression from that is that it does not have even a minimal amount of security, which is surprising. Presumably, anyone who can read the protocol specification would be able to implement the equivalent to gnus-mdrtn.el, and thus do all of those `evil things.' --=20 Jeremy Maitin-Shepard