[5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Paul D. Smith]

Has anyone gotten mailabbrev and/or bbdb to work with message?

I can't get either to work.  BBDB isn't too puzzling, since I haven't
tried to install hooks for it yet :).  Anyone have a bbdb-message.el
they're using?

But I've tried to use mailabbrev and for some reason my abbreviations
aren't defined for me.  As far as I can see message-mode calls
mail-abbrevs-setup, but I have no abbrevs defined when the message
buffer is created.

If I explicitly rebuild the abbrevs, then they're OK and I can expand
them.  But for old mail, all I had to do was add mail-abbrevs-setup to
mail-setup-hook and all was fine.

Help?

Re: [5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Paul D. Smith" <psmith@BayNetworks.com> writes:

> But I've tried to use mailabbrev and for some reason my abbreviations
> aren't defined for me.  As far as I can see message-mode calls
> mail-abbrevs-setup, but I have no abbrevs defined when the message
> buffer is created.
> 
> If I explicitly rebuild the abbrevs, then they're OK and I can expand
> them.  But for old mail, all I had to do was add mail-abbrevs-setup to
> mail-setup-hook and all was fine.

That's odd.  The mailabbrev things work OK for me -- it reads the
.mailrc file and expands To (etc) fields quite nicely...

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Re: [5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Jack Vinson]

>>>>> "PDS" == Paul D Smith <psmith@baynetworks.com> writes:

PDS> Has anyone gotten mailabbrev and/or bbdb to work with message?
PDS> I can't get either to work.  BBDB isn't too puzzling, since I haven't
PDS> tried to install hooks for it yet :).  Anyone have a bbdb-message.el
PDS> they're using?

message-mode-hook:

(add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'bbdb-define-all-aliases)

You'll also want to grab a copy of gnus-bbdb.el from Brian Edmonds
<edmonds@cs.ubc.ca>
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/gnus/gnus-bbdb.el


Can't comment on mailabbrev's since I'm using mail-abbrevs.el that came
with bbdb.  Can anyone tell me if there is a substantial difference between
the two?  The mailabbrev in 19.31 is dated 19 oct 90 while mail-abbrevs was
created then and modified a few times (last change 30 dec 93).

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Re: [5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Darren/Torin/Who Ever...]

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Jack Vinson, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>You'll also want to grab a copy of gnus-bbdb.el from Brian Edmonds
><edmonds@cs.ubc.ca>
>http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/gnus/gnus-bbdb.el

So.  How about convincing Gnus to treat bbdb a bit better?  Is it
possible to have a user defined window in gnus-buffer-configuration
(such as *BBDB*)?

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Re: [5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <torin@daft.com> writes:

> Is it possible to have a user defined window in
> gnus-buffer-configuration (such as *BBDB*)?

Sure, that's no problem.  Just use `gnus-add-configuration'.

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Re: [5.2.2] message vs. bbdb/mailabbrev

[Darren/Torin/Who Ever...]

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>"Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <torin@daft.com> writes:
>> Is it possible to have a user defined window in
>> gnus-buffer-configuration (such as *BBDB*)?
>Sure, that's no problem.  Just use `gnus-add-configuration'.

Oh.  I figured that gnus-add-configuration would only add windows that
it knew about.  Why do I foolishly continue to think of gnus as a
newsreader rather a wonderful application with a serious programming
interface.  I've got to get out of the strn/mh mindset.

Darren
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