From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78693 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Unplugged or Offline mode Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:39:39 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <89y62nx078.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <87r58h9npt.fsf@gnumonk.com> <87oc3k1ac4.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mxj4dlrd.fsf@gnumonk.com> <87vcxrajox.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304437267 19798 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2011 15:41:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:41:07 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26995@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 03 17:41:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHic-00077S-Ft for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHi8-0008F3-QR; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:40:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHi7-0008Et-Nz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:40:27 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHi6-00085k-7W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:40:27 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHi3-0005Rc-Ca for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:23 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHHi3-0006f3-1A for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:23 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:23 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110017 (No Gnus v0.17) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CfVdJcpdtlWOhEKHlGi4H5Q1WEs= X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1628--5892h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-1486--5377h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1407--5091h-0s--0d--H*UA:Gnus, 0.000-1406--5090h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1354--4902h-0s--0d--H*u:linux Spam tokens: 0.889-1735--3757h-45775s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.889-1735--3757h-45775s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.882-1416--3942h-44660s--0d--HTo:D*gnus.org, 0.872-1095--4545h-47006s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-Internal:quimby.gnus.org, 0.872-1095--4545h-47006s--0d--H*RT:80.91.231.51 Autolearn status: no 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (rileyrg[at]googlemail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.2 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.9 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78693 Archived-At: Eric S Fraga writes: > Deepak Tripathi writes: > >> Robert Pluim writes: >> >>> Eric S Fraga writes: >> D t and D s works from nndraft:drafts folders, How to use it from >> nndraft:queue ? > > No idea. When I have drafts, I typically edit them (e) and then send > (C-c C-c), save for later further processing (C-c C-d) or discard (C-c > C-k), as appropriate. > > If I have queued messages, I send them from the group buffer (J S). > > For me, draft and queued messages are very distinct. Anything in the > queue *will* be sent: they are complete messages that I do not need to > look at again before sending (except in extreme cases). Draft messages > are those which should *not* be sent without further editing. Very > different use cases and gnus handles the distinction very nicely, IMO. just some notes, comments which might make the OP a little more comfortable with Gnus... I'm not sure I would describe it handling it nicely per se - its confusing I think and takes a while to get your head around. Also both draft and queue have the same key sequences since they are "kind of" one of the same. I work pretty much the same as you but I dont bother with offline anymore since the registry doesnt work with multiple gmail accounts (posted a few times) for me. A shame as I struggled for ages to get this working. I activate based on topic levels and have the option set to always queue outgoing email regardless of online or offline. Drafts I can send from the draft queue with D s which sends it to the queue. This is correct. And from the queue I can D s from within the queue or do a J S at the group buffer levels. Except for Gnus not correctly updating the draft/queue counts it works very nicely.