From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/16013 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Randal Schwartz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: oooohhhhh... bitten once again by an evil "reply-to"-setting mailing list Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:20:24 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <8cyassgb7r.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154953 25341 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09451 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:37:03 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23477 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:30:54 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAT08851; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:00:39 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06289 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:20:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from gadget.cscaper.com (merlyn@gadget.cscaper.com [206.67.186.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13890 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from merlyn@localhost) by gadget.cscaper.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA22574; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:20:25 -0700 (MST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.29/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16013 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16013 OK, what can I do about those lame mailing lists (about a fourth of them, in my experience) that add "reply-to: the-list@where.ever", so that both the "r" and the "f" buttons do EXACTLY the SAME THING? Is there something I can set in the group-params that says "ignore reply-to"? Of course, I've tried to convince these folks time and time again that this means that an *individual* cannot add a "reply-to" to their own message and have it be used. :( But they claim "hey, it makes it easier for people to keep the conversations on the list instead of amongst the individuals". The average IQ of the net is dropping rapidly. At least I didn't say something very embarassing this time. Last time it was much worse, and I raised more hell over it. Still to no avail. (Funny, that group said that nearly everyone that signs on and gets bit then complains... I think they feel it is a rite of passage. :) -- Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying Email: Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn@teleport.com) Web: My Home Page! Quote: "I'm telling you, if I could have five lines in my .sig, I would!" -- me From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/16014 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: oooohhhhh... bitten once again by an evil "reply-to"-setting mailing list Date: 13 Aug 1998 17:45:44 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <8cyassgb7r.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154954 25349 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:02:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09806 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:54:46 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23788 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAT09039; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:18:28 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:46:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07327 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14329 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.180]) by waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id RAA19595; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:45:47 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: by ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de id RAA16024; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:45:45 +0200 Original-To: Randal Schwartz In-Reply-To: Randal Schwartz's message of "13 Aug 1998 08:20:24 -0700" Original-Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.33/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16014 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16014 >>>>> Randal Schwartz writes: > OK, what can I do about those lame mailing lists (about a fourth > of them, in my experience) that add "reply-to: > the-list@where.ever", so that both the "r" and the "f" buttons do > EXACTLY the SAME THING? There's a `broken reply-to' group parameter. Type G c on the group. kai -- OOP: object oriented programming; OOPS: object oriented mistakes From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/16015 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bud Rogers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: oooohhhhh... bitten once again by an evil "reply-to"-setting mailing list Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:45:57 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <8cyassgb7r.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154955 25358 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:02:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09845 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:55:22 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23836 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAT09046; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:18:30 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:46:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07355 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from twocups.sirinet.net (budr@twocups.sirinet.net [207.3.88.229]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14340 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from budr@localhost) by twocups.sirinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA18612; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:45:58 -0500 Original-To: Randal Schwartz In-Reply-To: Randal Schwartz's message of "13 Aug 1998 08:20:24 -0700" Original-Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.24/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16015 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16015 Edit Group Properties for the offending lists. I stumbled onto this while wandering around in the gnus info files. `broken-reply-to' Elements like `(broken-reply-to . t)' signals that `Reply-To' headers in this group are to be ignored. This can be useful if you're reading a mailing list group where the listserv has inserted `Reply-To' headers that point back to the listserv itself. This is broken behavior. So there! -- Bud Rogers formerly From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/16017 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Randal Schwartz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: oooohhhhh... bitten once again by an evil "reply-to"-setting mailing list Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:53:50 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <8ck94cev3l.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com> References: <8cyassgb7r.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154956 25360 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:02:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09982 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:02:31 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24062 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAT09111; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:26:27 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:54:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07707 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:54:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from gadget.cscaper.com (merlyn@gadget.cscaper.com [206.67.186.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14501 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from merlyn@localhost) by gadget.cscaper.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA23146; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:53:51 -0700 (MST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Randal Schwartz's message of "13 Aug 1998 08:20:24 -0700" Original-Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.29/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16017 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:16017 >>>>> "Randal" == Randal Schwartz writes: Randal> Is there something I can set in the group-params that says "ignore Randal> reply-to"? Duh. RTFM. Thank you for providing that feature *already*! (Yes, thanks to the half dozen people that sent me messages saying "set broken-reply-to".) I can't believe I called the support line before I picked up the manual. Shame on me. I'm turning in my "unix guru card" for 24 hours now. :) (Admittedly, part of the reason I posted was to point out how much a feature like that is needed. :) -- Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying Email: Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn@teleport.com) Web: My Home Page! Quote: "I'm telling you, if I could have five lines in my .sig, I would!" -- me