From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63608 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Please add pgg-discard-passphrase-cache Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:20:10 +0900 Message-ID: <8ed52ad5-e407-4ee3-bdd0-cbe68042efa0@well-done.deisui.org> References: <7isljcsgqx.fsf@lanthane.pps.jussieu.fr> <94dbb93a-f189-4ab0-80b7-c4f067fb2ed7@well-done.deisui.org> <87sljcaro9.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <5595f934-8d29-456b-8e01-35ad426df461@well-done.deisui.org> <87veo8ymjf.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> <066b5281-8ea9-46df-986c-b0c4df6e5cb3@well-done.deisui.org> <87mz9jzyvu.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157106078 29760 80.91.229.2 (1 Sep 2006 10:21:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m12135@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 01 12:21:16 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJ68n-0001Xm-8h for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GJ68j-00011J-00; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:20:45 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GJ68K-00011D-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:20:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.227.211]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJ68G-0005uF-Ik for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:20:20 -0500 Original-Received: from g96069.scn-net.ne.jp ([210.231.96.69] helo=well-done.deisui.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1GJ68E-0003rk-00 for ; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:20:14 +0200 Original-Received: from [150.82.173.221] (helo=well-done.deisui.org) by well-done.deisui.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GJ68C-0001cM-Cb; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:20:12 +0900 Original-To: Juliusz Chroboczek X-Attribution: DU In-Reply-To: <87mz9jzyvu.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:04:21 +0200") User-Agent: T-gnus/6.17.2 (based on No Gnus v0.2) EMIKO/1.14.1 (Choanoflagellata) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 EasyPG/0.0.4 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 17) (Jumbo Shrimp) (i686-pc-linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63608 Archived-At: >>>>> In <87mz9jzyvu.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> >>>>> Simon Josefsson wrote: > Daiki Ueno writes: > >>>>>> In <87veo8ymjf.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> > >>>>>> Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Does it fully supersede all of pgg.el's features? > > > > As of now it only lacks PGP 2.x/5.x support, but is it still needed? > I'm not sure. I don't care about it. Anyone else? > Are there any advantages with epg.el over pgg.el? S/MIME support > through gpgsm? Yes, and other notable features, - It provides a way to examine the verification result, which helps verify a message signed with multiple keys. - It can ask a user which private key to be used for encryption/sign. - It can handle PGP messages in the binary format as well as the ascii armor format. - Dired integration. - Transparent file encryption/decryption. - Key signing. > >> Maybe we should include it in Gnus CVS as a start? > > > > Please do not! There is no review process among Gnus developers and > > someone might check his kludge in CVS without my permission. > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63038 > > > > I don't want to repeat pgg.el mistake. > I'd really want whatever PGP package we use to either be part of Gnus > CVS or Emacs CVS. Automatically copying the files into Gnus CVS from > epg.el's CVS would work fine, I think. Would that be OK? Then all > changes to epg.el has to go through you before they hit Gnus CVS. Since epg.el is a general purpose PGP library, I think it should be a part of Emacs (not Gnus) from the beginning. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno