Adam Sjøgren writes: > I've had people think I forgot to write anything, because they could not > see my reply before the quoted text. This happens to me constantly also. And that really is the problem -- not the debate about whether traditional quoting is functional or not, but the user astonishment when they see it for the first time. They think it's you who does not know who to use email, and yes, one common form of that is to think that you sent them an empty reply. Even trimming the message down to only the relevant parts makes them think you're some kind of screwball. It doesn't help that aside from Thunderbird, there do not seem to be any commonly used GUI mailreaders that even allow you to traditional quote without doing a lot of hand-editing, and even Thunderbird doesn't do it by default. It's become almost entirely something people using terminal based mailreaders like Gnus, Alpine, Mutt, etc. do, because only they have software that gives you much of a choice about it. What are we supposed to tell the vast masses of people that will only use a large GUI mailreader? You must use Thunderbird (with a non-default reply quotes setting), because it's the law? -- + Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys + Sr. UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will + University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of + James Franck Institute + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, + Materials Research Ctr + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky