From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/4120 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "M.N.Oakden" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Signature in forwarded messages Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:29:29 GMT Message-ID: <9511290929.AA11263@vo6.ph.liv.ac.uk> References: <199511281709.LAA14735@galil.austnsc.tandem.com> <199511290254.SAA03517@miranova.com> Reply-To: oakden@hep.ph.liv.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035144915 28579 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA09373 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:21:16 -0800 Original-Received: from mailhub.liverpool.ac.uk (pp@mail.liv.ac.uk [138.253.100.84]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:24:13 +0100 Original-Received: from hep.ph.liv.ac.uk (actually vo2.ph.liv.ac.uk) by mail.liv.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:22:11 +0000 Original-Received: from vo6.ph.liv.ac.uk by hep.ph.liv.ac.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0314PM) id AA00725; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:29:31 GMT Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.accessone.com's message of 29 Nov 1995 00:32:30 -0800 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4120 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4120 Hi there, In article robert@steffi.accessone.com (Robert Nicholson) writes: > > How can you justify the signature appearing at the start of the > message when forwarding? > > re: I don't think this is broken. > The signature appearing before a forwarded message seems like reasonable behaviour to me, at least at first thought... Thinking further about it, I worry about the effect of this on clever mail/news readers in which it is possible for the user to automagically hide signatures [mentioning no names, ... but how many clever mail/news readers are there ;) ]. It would seem to me that this might result in the entire forwarded message being hidden (apologies if The Cleverest Mail/News Reader is clever enough to not do this even if its dumb user asks it to hide signatures...) I can think of one "justification" off-hand. If I am replying to a letter (a real paper one), and want to quote some of a previous letter to me in my letter, I quote the material within the letter and sign at the end. [compare email reply with original text] ... BUT ... If I am sending an entire copy of a letter (again, a real paper one) I receive to somebody else, and want to add an explanation of the forwarded letter "Dear Bob, Look at this gibberish Fred sent me. Cheers, Mark" or something of the sort, I would probably scribble this across the top of the forwarded letter (with my "signature" "Mark" there, above the text of the forwarded letter) or if my explanatory note was longer, I would probably write my own letter, complete with my signature "Mark", and staple it to the front of the forwarded copy. [cf email forwarding]. In both these paper-mail forwarding systems my signature appears before the forwarded letter. Of course, email isn't paper mail, and it probably isn't a good idea to take such paper mail analogies too seriously in an email context. Cheers, Mark. -- oakden@hep.ph.liv.ac.uk - I'm not politically | Wearing straw cloaks, incorrect, I'm just differently articulate. | with spring | saints greet each other.