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From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
Subject: Re: Being forced to deal with message numbers and frustrated
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:20:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99Jun23.201735edt.13841-3@gateway.intersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Tony Lam's message of "23 Jun 1999 15:13:39 -0700"

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* Tony Lam <Tony.Lam+ding@eng.sun.com>  on Wed, 23 Jun 1999
| I never want to care about article numbers in the first place. Gnus
| could have transparently hide those numbers from user completely, or
| at least provide some satisfactory working solution that can be
| automated to deal with these situations, and there would be no
| problems from user regarding article numbers.

Point: Gnus *DOES* hide those numbers completely (if you tell it not to
display article numbers in the summary buffers).  In the ~5 years I have
been using Gnus, I have never looked at article numbers outside of writing
code that deals with messages on an article number basis, that being my
grafting of Gnus' early expiry code to GNUS and FSF Emacs 18, making early
versions of Gnus play nicely with jka-compr and compressed nnml files, and
some procmail support (the nnmail-keep-last-article stuff).

Admittedly, you are using cache and tick in a fashion that is more complex
than it needs to be (read: wrong :).  I think you would be happier doing
this:

* Use ticks (! or u) to mark articles that you wish to reply to later.

* Use mark dormant (?) to mark articles that you want to keep around
  forever.

* Set gnus-use-cache based on group name (I use a cond form in
  gnus-select-group-hook to set certain variables based on group name).
  Set it true for remote groups, nil or passive as you would for local
  (mail) groups.
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  reply	other threads:[~1999-06-24  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-22  0:36 some mail annoyances Per Bothner
1999-06-22  2:04 ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-22  8:20 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-22  8:23 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-22 12:00   ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-22 22:34     ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-23  7:39     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23 14:25   ` Wes Hardaker
1999-06-22 12:53 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-22 17:48   ` some mail annoyances [renumbering] Per Bothner
1999-06-22 18:20     ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-23  7:00       ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-06-23  7:44         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23  7:50           ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-23  8:18           ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-06-22 18:58     ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-22 19:29       ` Sam Falkner
1999-06-22 19:33         ` Finding a given in an nnml group (was: Re: some mail annoyances [renumbering]) Laura Conrad
1999-06-22 19:48           ` Jack Twilley
1999-06-22 19:48           ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-23  6:54           ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23 15:36             ` Laura Conrad
1999-06-23 17:46               ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-24  9:10               ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24 20:39           ` Justin Sheehy
1999-06-22 21:13         ` some mail annoyances [renumbering] Tony Lam
1999-06-23  7:05         ` Steinar Bang
1999-06-23 19:33         ` David Hedbor
1999-06-25 23:25           ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-26  0:27             ` David Hedbor
1999-06-28 15:45               ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-23  6:45     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23 18:34       ` Being forced to deal with message numbers and frustrated Tony Lam
1999-06-23 19:56         ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-23 22:13           ` Tony Lam
1999-06-24  0:20             ` Stainless Steel Rat [this message]
1999-06-24  6:44               ` Tony Lam
1999-06-24  9:19                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24  9:21                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24 14:58               ` Peter von der Ahé - at home
1999-06-24 15:37                 ` Norbert Koch
1999-06-24 17:58                   ` Tony Lam
1999-06-25 19:47                   ` David Hedbor
1999-06-25 20:56                     ` Matt Pharr
1999-06-28  1:53                       ` Tony Lam
1999-06-24 15:48                 ` Lee Willis
1999-06-24 18:01                   ` Tony Lam
1999-06-24  8:42             ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-24 17:05               ` Sam Falkner
1999-06-24 23:06                 ` Sam Falkner
1999-06-24  9:17             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24  9:14         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24 19:00           ` Tony Lam
1999-06-24 20:41             ` David S. Goldberg
1999-06-24 21:07             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-24 21:38               ` Tony Lam
1999-06-25  6:14                 ` Soeren Laursen
1999-07-04  1:30         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-06-22 18:33   ` some mail annoyances [deleting mail] Per Bothner
1999-06-22 18:33     ` Jack Twilley
1999-06-22 18:54       ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-22 19:15     ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-23  7:10       ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-06-23  7:32         ` Yair Friedman
1999-06-23  7:46         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23 12:13         ` Randal L. Schwartz
1999-06-22 19:18     ` Nathan Williams
1999-06-23  7:51       ` Per Bothner
1999-06-23  6:58     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23  7:23     ` Yair Friedman
1999-07-04  1:37     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-06-22 19:37   ` some mail annoyances David S. Goldberg
1999-06-23  0:48   ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-06-23  7:42     ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-23  7:49       ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23 14:20       ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-06-23 19:15         ` some mail annoyances [article number overflow] Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-23 21:02           ` Colin Rafferty
1999-06-23 21:09             ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-22 12:58 ` some mail annoyances David S. Goldberg
1999-06-22 14:33 ` Steinar Bang
1999-06-22 16:43   ` Vin Shelton
1999-06-23  6:42     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-23  6:47     ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-06-23 14:24 ` Wes Hardaker
1999-06-24 21:19 ` Per Bothner
1999-06-25  3:18   ` Christian Nybø
1999-06-25 20:34     ` Ken McGlothlen
1999-06-25 23:51       ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-26  0:07         ` Ken McGlothlen
1999-06-26  0:19           ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-26  2:05             ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-26  2:28               ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-26  2:46                 ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-27 13:32                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-27 21:15                     ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-28 23:43                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-27 22:30                     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-28  2:49                       ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-28  8:09                         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-28 15:24                           ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-28 15:50                             ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-26  9:32                 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-27 13:34                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-06-28 13:58             ` Kim-Minh Kaplan
1999-06-26 13:16           ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-28 15:37             ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-28 20:43               ` Wes Hardaker
1999-06-28 20:57                 ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-25  5:10   ` Russ Allbery
1999-06-25 13:21   ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-06-25 13:25     ` Didier Verna
1999-06-25 13:39       ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-25 13:43       ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-25 13:52         ` customizing (was Re: some mail annoyances) Paul Stevenson
1999-07-04  2:19 ` some mail annoyances Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-04  2:44   ` Harry Putnam
1999-07-04  3:19     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-04  6:15       ` Harry Putnam
1999-07-04  6:37         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-04  6:51           ` Harry Putnam
1999-07-04 13:15           ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-07-04 17:00     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-04 19:01       ` Harry Putnam
1999-07-04 19:31         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-04  6:37   ` Hans de Graaff
1999-07-05  3:11     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-04 16:58   ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-05  3:13     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-05  9:28       ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-06  3:58         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-05  7:45     ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-07-06  4:02       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-06  6:47         ` Jaap-Henk Hoepman
1999-07-06 15:54           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-05 16:22     ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-05 18:32       ` François Pinard
1999-07-07 11:30         ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-07 14:20           ` François Pinard
1999-07-07 14:22             ` Lee Willis
1999-07-12 11:40             ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-06  3:59       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-13  5:22     ` Rob Browning
1999-07-13 11:29       ` Kai Großjohann
1999-07-04 18:18   ` lconrad
1999-07-05  3:17     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-07  0:34   ` Peter von der Ahé
1999-07-07  2:46     ` lconrad
1999-07-09 16:59     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-09 18:39       ` Peter von der Ahé
1999-07-09 19:15         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-28  7:36   ` Rob Browning

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