From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23503 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Being forced to deal with message numbers and frustrated Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:20:11 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <99Jun23.201735edt.13841-3@gateway.intersys.com> References: <4jywvwuyde2.fsf_-_@homeworld.Eng.Sun.Com> <4jy4sjy1s6k.fsf@homeworld.Eng.Sun.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161224 2374 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20910 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB22721; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:22:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06871 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:22:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from intersys.com (gateway.intersys.com [198.133.74.253]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20848 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by gateway.intersys.com id <13841-3>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:17:35 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: Tony Lam's message of "23 Jun 1999 15:13:39 -0700" Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23503 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23503 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Tony Lam on Wed, 23 Jun 1999 | I never want to care about article numbers in the first place. Gnus | could have transparently hide those numbers from user completely, or | at least provide some satisfactory working solution that can be | automated to deal with these situations, and there would be no | problems from user regarding article numbers. Point: Gnus *DOES* hide those numbers completely (if you tell it not to display article numbers in the summary buffers). In the ~5 years I have been using Gnus, I have never looked at article numbers outside of writing code that deals with messages on an article number basis, that being my grafting of Gnus' early expiry code to GNUS and FSF Emacs 18, making early versions of Gnus play nicely with jka-compr and compressed nnml files, and some procmail support (the nnmail-keep-last-article stuff). Admittedly, you are using cache and tick in a fashion that is more complex than it needs to be (read: wrong :). I think you would be happier doing this: * Use ticks (! or u) to mark articles that you wish to reply to later. * Use mark dormant (?) to mark articles that you want to keep around forever. * Set gnus-use-cache based on group name (I use a cond form in gnus-select-group-hook to set certain variables based on group name). Set it true for remote groups, nil or passive as you would for local (mail) groups. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3cXm6gl+vIlSVSNkRAp9BAJ9bCNiCcVKZnBUZo57Mly+wS9opHgCdFJqN aNr21OGH/FnMUvTWFv6VroQ= =Cx0K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space.