From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22180 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:34:33 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <99Mar31.103220est.13907-2@gateway.intersys.com> References: <99Mar30.101000est.13914-3@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160147 26807 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:29:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11756 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:36:20 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB29925; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:35:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:36:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27854 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:35:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from intersys.com (gateway.intersys.com [198.133.74.253]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11739 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:35:52 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by gateway.intersys.com id <13907-2>; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:32:20 -0500 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: Dmitry Yaitskov's message of "30 Mar 1999 22:06:16 -0500" Original-Lines: 49 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22180 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22180 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Dmitry Yaitskov on Tue, 30 Mar 1999 | Why incorrectly? This info is not part of the message, why should it not | be stripped, even if it was present while the server has been storing the | message? Because the envelope *IS* part of the message. | What rfc specifies that a message retrieved via pop3 must have one of | those things as the first line of the message? None; this information is defined elsewhere (notably RFC 821). [...] | BTW, I just rechecked - neither of my 3 pop3 servers supplies any of | the magic sequences you're using to second-guess its original storage | mode. I'm not trying to second-guess storage modes. I am trying to generate a valid message delimiter when one does not already exist. | Enjoy :) although I don't see how it can be useful. The 'envelope' | (the first line) has been generated by pop3-movemail anyway. Thank you. The mail delivery agent on (I'm assuming) home.com's mail host is failing to generate Content-Length headers and it is failing to properly escape lines in message bodies, *AND* your POP server is stripping envelopes or whatever other message delimiters it might use. IOW, it looks like you are being hammered by a broken implementation of SMTP *and* a broken implementation of POP. And FWIW, what pop3-movemail puts in your crashbox is identical to what fetchmail would put there if you used it instead, modulo its version of faux envelopes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3AkCJgl+vIlSVSNkRAiLiAKCw5GsUx0tZ/N6XliENYi2EM4gFGwCggDpc WcyW1fQbjggqQuCnLbhtzmA= =iRZD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ returned to its special container and PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ kept under refrigeration.