From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22860 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: patch: \201 when cache (was: bug: \201 in summary buffer) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:04:18 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <99May3.120029edt.13833-2@gateway.intersys.com> References: <2nvhecvxuc.fsf_-_@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160704 31542 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:38:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11353 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB00781; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 03 May 1999 11:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16563 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from intersys.com (gateway.intersys.com [198.133.74.253]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11157 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by gateway.intersys.com id <13833-2>; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:00:29 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: François Pinard's message of "02 May 1999 13:21:31 -0400" Original-Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22860 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22860 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * François Pinard on Sun, 02 May 1999 | I prefer to think such MUAs are themselves very broken, would it be only | by utter chauvinism :-).[1] It is not that they are broken, because they are not. That they are old, running on legacy systems, and cannot be be updated. [...] | The right thing to do is to leave incoming mail undisturbed and | unconverted, that is, as close as the original as possible, yet within | reason. An 8-bit clean MTA is required to convert 8-bit data to a standard 7-bit representation when delivering to an MTA that is not 8-bit clean. If it fails to do that, chances are the message has already been irecoverably mangled. At that point all the MUA (Gnus) can do is try to pick up the pieces to prevent any further damage. A non-destructive transformation like ISO escaping falls "within reason" for this purpose. [...] | For \201 problems, for one, I would feel better if they were solved | instead of avoided, because `avoiding' is just one form of `postponing'. A workaround in Gnus, regardless of how it is implemented, is not a solution. The posted workaround fixes the problem for Gnus. My suggestion does that as well as prevents problems with other MUAs which do not or cannot deal with 8-bit data. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3LckCgl+vIlSVSNkRAhsjAJ9ostxhye8jAA8XCPgTUcn5qat+jgCgsyic CkbeTXDq8paPZAjpGG3yeRc= =35LI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head.