Re: gnus-parameters and (visible . t) problem

Re: gnus-parameters and (visible . t) problem

[Jochen Küpper]

I realized I send my message to Emacs-help. I now redirect it to Gnus'
ding list, asking for enhancements of Gnus. M-F'up set to ding-smP1P7uqpqfhvxM+mQhndA@public.gmane.org

bojohan+news-dtrdnu4G8ymci/EUP2OQSw@public.gmane.org (Johan Bockgård) writes:

> "Group parameters can be set via the `gnus-parameters' variable too.
> But some variables, such as `visible', have no effect."

Oops. Thank you for pointing that out. I apparently never read that
far, sorry to bother.

However, why is that and how could Gnus be improved to honor these
settings in gnus-parameters as well?

Greetings,
Jochen
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Re: gnus-parameters and (visible . t) problem

[Johan Bockgård]

Jochen Küpper <jochen@fhi-berlin.mpg.de> writes:

> However, why is that and how could Gnus be improved to honor these
> settings in gnus-parameters as well?

In the meantime can you use the `gnus-permanently-visible-groups'
variable?

-- 
Johan Bockgård

Re: gnus-parameters and (visible . t) problem

[Jochen Küpper]

> bojohan+news-dtrdnu4G8ymci/EUP2OQSw@public.gmane.org (Johan Bockgård) writes:

[...correctly points out gnus-permanently-visible-groups...]

So what;s about the following documentaiton-enhancement?

Greetings,
Jochen
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Index: texi/gnus.texi
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/texi/gnus.texi,v
retrieving revision 7.95
diff -u -u -r7.95 gnus.texi
--- texi/gnus.texi      30 Mar 2005 08:17:03 -0000      7.95
+++ texi/gnus.texi      23 Jun 2005 22:09:04 -0000
@@ -2764,6 +2764,9 @@
 that group will always be visible in the Group buffer, regardless
 of whether it has any unread articles.

+This parameter cannot be set via @code{gnus-parameters}. See
+@code{gnus-permanently-visible-groups} as an alternative.
+
 @item broken-reply-to
 @cindex broken-reply-to
 Elements like @code{(broken-reply-to . t)} signals that @code{Reply-To}
@@ -3055,7 +3058,8 @@

 @vindex gnus-parameters
 Group parameters can be set via the @code{gnus-parameters} variable too.
-But some variables, such as @code{visible}, have no effect.  For
+But some variables, such as @code{visible}, have no effect (For this
+case see @code{gnus-permanently-visible-groups} as an alternative.). For
 example:

 @lisp

Re: gnus-parameters and (visible . t) problem

[RISKO Gergely]

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:13:32 +0200, Jochen Küpper <jochen@fhi-berlin.mpg.de> writes:

>> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) writes:
>
> [...correctly points out gnus-permanently-visible-groups...]
>
> So what;s about the following documentaiton-enhancement?

And someone should also documentate what are the other variables,
which are not working with gnus-parameters...

Gergely

remote Maildir and IMAP

[Janusz S. Bień]

Hi!

I need to read my mail with IMAP on a computer, where the mail is kept
in Maildir format. For the time being I am using fetchmail (the
"novice" configuration worked immediately) but I am curious whether it
is possible to read the mail directly with gnus. I am afraid I am the
only user of gnus on this computer, so I can't rely on local help
:-(. I also didn't succeed to find a relevant advice with Google.

In .gnus.el I tried several values of `nnimap-list pattern', including
the default, "~/Mail/*" and the one listed below.

	(nnimap "duch"
		(nnimap-address "duch.mimuw.edu.pl")
		(nnimap-list-pattern ( "~/Mail/Maildir/*" ))
		(nnimap-stream starttls)
		(nnimap-authinfo-file "nnimap-authinfo-file")
		)

Gnus connects correctly, but no mail is available.

I am looking forward to your advice.

Best regards

Janusz

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Prof. Janusz S. Bien - Warsaw Uniwersity (Chair of Formal Linguistics)
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Re: remote Maildir and IMAP

[Ted Zlatanov]

On 26 Jun 2005, jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl wrote:


> I need to read my mail with IMAP on a computer, where the mail is
> kept in Maildir format. For the time being I am using fetchmail (the
> "novice" configuration worked immediately) but I am curious whether
> it is possible to read the mail directly with gnus.

You can read a Maildir directly with Gnus, or you can run an IMAP
daemon on top of the Maildir and connect to it with Gnus.  You seem to
be trying to do the latter without an IMAP daemon.  Courier IMAP is a
good one, for example.

Don't set the list pattern if you don't have to.  If you already have
an IMAP daemon, just open it from the server buffer (`^' from the
group buffer) and subscribe to its groups (`u' in the server buffer n
an unsubscribed/unknown group).

Ted

Re: remote Maildir and IMAP

[j.bien]

"Ted Zlatanov" <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

[...]

> Don't set the list pattern if you don't have to.  

That's the solution! Thanks! 

Best regards

Janusz

P.S. Posted from Debian emacs-snapshot with IMAP

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                     ,   
dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW -  Uniwersytet Warszawski (Katedra Lingwistyki Formalnej)
Prof. Janusz S. Bien - Warsaw Uniwersity (Chair of Formal Linguistics)
jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl, jsbien@uw.edu.pl, http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~jsbien/, http://www.klf.uw.edu.pl

Re: remote Maildir and IMAP

[Janusz S. Bień]

On 26 Jun 2005  "Ted Zlatanov" <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:

[...]

> Don't set the list pattern if you don't have to.  

That's the solution! Thanks!

As I am reading now my mail with IMAP from two different computers, I
would like to switch appropiately the SMTP server when replying. Is
already such a feature available?

Best regards

Janusz

-- 
                     ,   
dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW -  Uniwersytet Warszawski (Katedra Lingwistyki Formalnej)
Prof. Janusz S. Bien - Warsaw Uniwersity (Chair of Formal Linguistics)
jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl, jsbien@uw.edu.pl, http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~jsbien/, http://www.klf.uw.edu.pl

Re: remote Maildir and IMAP

[Ted Zlatanov]

On 26 Jun 2005, jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl wrote:

> As I am reading now my mail with IMAP from two different computers, I
> would like to switch appropiately the SMTP server when replying. Is
> already such a feature available?

I don't know.  I use my own functions to do this, but maybe there's a
"standard" way in Gnus?  Anyone?

Ted