From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80265 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp crap Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:19:07 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <9qobxp14d0.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> <83botsf06d.fsf@gnu.org> <83vcrzef9c.fsf@gnu.org> <82zkha43ts.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318245571 13435 80.91.229.12 (10 Oct 2011 11:19:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 13:19:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtG-0004Gk-KB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:19:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtF-0000Xm-MS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:19:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45663) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtC-0000Xh-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtC-00015f-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtB-00015Z-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDDtA-0004Dz-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:19:20 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:19:20 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:19:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MbijYEKMJprofpjEkxs4LcS/jWc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144813 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80265 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Sivaram Neelakantan > > [snip] > > > what about checking whether there's a .gnus file, or a VM, >> Mews/rmail(and other Emacs only mail client) dot file and not doing >> anything in such a case?  Yes, I understand, users can name their dot >> files arbitrarily but since we are trying defaults.... >> > > The issue is about whether your emacs uses smtp to send mail via a > remote MTA or a locally installed one. It is further complicated by > the fact that an unknown number of users don't actaully want to use > emacs as their MUA AT ALL. and are irritated by questions concerning > emacs and smtp which they see as irrelevant. Its being repeatedly asked? I havent seen that.