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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> > Isn't it, really?  It ships with Emacs, it's GPL-ed, it's assigned
> > to the FSF, it works nicely, it sings and it cooks for you.  If
> > noone is supposed to use it, why is it there in the first place?
> 
> I think people are supposed to decide for themselves whether to load
> cl, or something.

No offense to Stallman, but that doesn't really make sense.  cl.el is
supposed to be helpful to programmers, not to users.  If no package is
uses it because people should decide whether they want to use it or
not, then why is it there?

But I'm attacking strawmen here -- I don't know the actual Stallman's
position.  I just wish the impressive amount of work invested in cl.el
could be leveraged elsewhere, like in Gnus.