From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27240 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Broken References (was: Cups) Date: 25 Nov 1999 19:06:04 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <9t9wvr6fnub.fsf@mraz.iskon.hr> References: <86903n762l.fsf@megalith.bp.aventail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164300 23552 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:38:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28631 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:07:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAC06962; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:06:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:06:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29776 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:06:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mraz.iskon.hr (root@mraz.iskon.hr [195.29.170.8]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28624 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:06:06 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by mraz.iskon.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id TAA20676; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 19:06:04 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > >> References: <86903n762l.fsf@megalith.bp.aventail.com> <86wvr6v9sb.fsf@me > > Gunnar> is that a known bug? > > It's probably an MTA bug somewhere (or feature - I can't remember > what the line-length limit is on headers). Perhaps we should be > able to tell Gnus that we're passing the message to a network that > does this. There are line-length limit suggestions, but they are much larger than the above. USEFOR and MESSFOR suggest 998 bytes if memory serves me. Anyway, Gnus does limit References to around 1000 octets. Furthermore, it does so intelligently, being careful not to cut the line in the middle as in the above example. Look at message-shorten-references to see how it's done. > In times gone past, Gnus used to wrap long References lines, but no > longer does (in order to coddle broken readers). Correction: it's the servers that are/were broken. More precisely, the servers didn't care, but the engine that creates NOV databases wouldn't handle folded headers correctly. This resulted in articles produced by Gnus being threaded incorrectly despite their correct contents and despite newsreaders being perfectly able to process them. In the spirit of "be conservative in what you send," Gnus was modified not to fold References by default, although folding them was clearly the right thing. Interoperability is sometimes _so_ sucky.