From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76048 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: visibility of groups Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:03:55 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <9vipxaustw.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <2pmxmoo7qw.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87fwsf87l0.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296153980 6099 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2011 18:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:46:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24400@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jan 27 19:46:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWrD-0005HN-Ey for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:46:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWr6-00035C-GE; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:46:04 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWr4-00034x-La for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:46:02 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWqz-0001Qv-Ud for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:46:02 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWqz-0008C7-3f for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:45:57 +0100 Original-Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so2696234bwz.17 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=owkVeZoNDBbm+pVsGOu+ejdnxVeOgNfocKoTZZUwyzE=; b=kbfaeEqjkgjpfrM8m5Wsxed2vwJ5Jb4YP3k+3GFCSQxRMR807V9KE67Q7XnWZCvpBe sxe/s9J1BZ5DuyfhVcYSND6MzolLMX2CXZ68wu+9QfiaLH5HM0AMhmAI7Jhe9Om6LxrL u+m003mpjtJ95MaVp2GZrQAb8LVel24s4+W9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ADtG5dgJG7H8YWnrXdO5+k9u6866mAVKO3ZHkcNHVksKvoLFGcj/m0oUxvkB9vSyh0 c7yrtrekhwJXSYgOhqyguNrd5irgLtatH1W2a+0B4f0E2Cw5v5kRZanVd2/8Rks5w/Hb f3qb8G9f9YYnPsfTgBbBLtxQDHDpsTNp5tv88= Original-Received: by 10.204.59.129 with SMTP id l1mr1740884bkh.88.1296151445902; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:04:05 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q18sm8270292bka.3.2011.01.27.10.04.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:04:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87fwsf87l0.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:21:31 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76048 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Richard Riley writes: > >> e.g I might want to suddenly see my sent folder and my spam folder >> both of which are not normally visible. > > Put the `visible' group parameter on the group. See the manual for > details. According to the manual thats not what I want - I could also include it in the "always visible" regexp for that functionality. The manual says adding that will make it always visible. ,---- | `visible' | If the group parameter list has the element `(visible . t)', that | group will always be visible in the Group buffer, regardless of | whether it has any unread articles. | | This parameter cannot be set via `gnus-parameters'. See | `gnus-permanently-visible-groups' as an alternative. `---- The "not normally shown" is the key part in the original explanation/question ,---- | inboxes are always shown. I realise that "by hitting L you can have it | show empty subscribed groups and unsubscribed groups". But how to show | (in addition to the regexp groups) empty subscribed groups that are not | normally shown but NOT unsubscribed groups? Can this be done via Group `---- e.g "myfolder" is not in the "always visible" regexp. But it IS subscribed. It has no unread articles. I want to see it temporarily. Currently I can only seem to do that by hitting L. This ALSO shows all unsubscribed (U) groups of which I have many -clearly I'm not interested in seeing unsubscribed groups. cheers r.