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From: chad <chadpbrown@gmail.com>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Application resource storage
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:51:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B39BC0A6-643E-40F5-B333-290899DD5E8F@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y63xem1c.fsf@lifelogs.com>

An idea:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:34:05 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> But if the question is of the kind "do you want to use port 587 when
LMI> connecting to smtp.gmail.com?", then that doesn't really map
LMI> straightforwardly to a simple variable.  It might map to an alist of
LMI> some kind, but the user may set that alist somewhere else, which 
LMI> makes all this kind of tricky.

I wonder if this isn't the key insight -- for all that I'm not a big fan, custom does a decent job of trying to do all of the user-input interactions. The trickiness seems to come in when something is set both directly and via custom. If the custom machinery were to add a flag or slot to a variable claiming it as custom-set, then we could at least warn the user that a custom setting is being overridden, potentially confirming the change, offering to push the change into custom, etc.

If we added such a check to custom and to user-facing variable setters, then the performance hit should be negligible. In other words, things like set-variable would check to see if its argument was `customized', and calling M-x custom would check to see if any of `its' variables had been changed.

Worth the trouble?
*Chad


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-29 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-17 17:04 Outgoing mail defaults Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 17:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 17:31   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 18:18     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 18:33       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 19:35         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 17:25 ` David Reitter
2011-03-17 17:43   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 18:22     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 14:10       ` John Sullivan
2011-03-17 19:02     ` David Reitter
2011-03-17 22:27       ` chad
2011-03-18  2:38         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18  4:17           ` chad
2011-03-21 19:46           ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-21 19:50             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 20:23 ` James Cloos
2011-03-17 20:30   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 20:35     ` James Cloos
     [not found] ` <87d3ln9b7y.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
2011-03-20  1:41   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20  3:06     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:20       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 14:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-21 19:42           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 22:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-22  2:01               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:22     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:34       ` Application resource storage (was: Outgoing mail defaults) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:58         ` Application resource storage Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:14           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:02             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:51           ` chad [this message]
2011-03-22 11:26 ` Outgoing mail defaults Simon Josefsson
2011-04-16 16:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-16 16:47   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-16 16:51   ` Ted Zlatanov

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