On 2002-04-25, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The file you are thinking about is installed by the standalone > gnus package in Debian, and not by the various flavours of emacsen. > > Specifically, the file is > /etc/emacs20/site-start.d/20gnus-init.el. > It is not installed for emacs21. And when it is run for emacs20, the > first thing it does to put the file path for the standalone gnus at > the beginning of the load path. Strange, in my emacs installation, there is a /usr/share/emacs21/lisp/gnus directory, which even contains files. It seems like gnus-start from there gets loaded. My emacs installation looks like: ,---- | ~ $ dpkg -l gnus emacs21 emacs21-el | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) | ||/ Name Version Description | +++-==============-==============-============================================ | pn gnus (no description available) | ii emacs21 21.2-1 The GNU Emacs editor. | ii emacs21-el 21.2-1 GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files. `---- As you can see, I have no gnus installed (gnus-bonus-el has the same status as has gnus). I'm running out of ideas. > I am running oort gnus (as you can see from the headers) on > Debian with emacs21, and I have no problems with autoloads; I do not > think this is a just a simple Debian issue. I agree in that this problem is not a simple one; but I do think this is a debian issue (see my previous mail - when I suppress loading of the user config file (I never touch my system-wide config), gnus features are present). Thanks, -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs