From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44405 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Fuchs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Autoloads no longer working? Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:12:05 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <877kmvups8.fsf@glaurung.green-gryphon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed ; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019808840 6738 127.0.0.1 (26 Apr 2002 08:14:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1710rf-0001kR-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:14:00 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1710qZ-0001CT-00; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 03:12:51 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 26 Apr 2002 03:13:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA09990 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 03:12:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 11531 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 2002 08:12:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 11525 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 08:12:34 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.ycn.com (212.88.160.3) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 2002 08:12:34 -0000 Original-Received: from eris.void.at (mail@212-88-187-152.ADSL.ycn.com [212.88.187.152]) by mail.ycn.com (8.11.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id g3Q8EYo17767 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: from asf by eris.void.at with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1710pp-0006e2-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:12:05 +0200 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Url: http://asf.void.at/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: asf Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44405 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44405 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-04-25, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The file you are thinking about is installed by the standalone > gnus package in Debian, and not by the various flavours of emacsen. >=20 > Specifically, the file is > /etc/emacs20/site-start.d/20gnus-init.el. > It is not installed for emacs21. And when it is run for emacs20, the > first thing it does to put the file path for the standalone gnus at > the beginning of the load path. Strange, in my emacs installation, there is a /usr/share/emacs21/lisp/gnus directory, which even contains files. It seems like gnus-start from there gets loaded. My emacs installation looks like: ,---- | ~ $ dpkg -l gnus emacs21 emacs21-el | Desired=3DUnknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | | Status=3DNot/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-install= ed | |/ Err?=3D(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=3Dboth-problems (Status,Err: uppe= rcase=3Dbad) | ||/ Name Version Description | +++-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D-=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D | pn gnus (no description available) | ii emacs21 21.2-1 The GNU Emacs editor. | ii emacs21-el 21.2-1 GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files. `---- As you can see, I have no gnus installed (gnus-bonus-el has the same status as has gnus). I'm running out of ideas. > I am running oort gnus (as you can see from the headers) on > Debian with emacs21, and I have no problems with autoloads; I do not > think this is a just a simple Debian issue. I agree in that this problem is not a simple one; but I do think this is a debian issue (see my previous mail - when I suppress loading of the user config file (I never touch my system-wide config), gnus features are present). Thanks, =2D-=20 Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8yQvVucDAWATX9F8RAtWDAKDSugz2DsK5hAtxOsYByR29+52UCwCfUUF0 xX5l9zYWTIwhxd/OK/jcsDQ= =Ps0a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--