From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62240 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: defcustom :version Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <15499.1142047137@olgas.newt.com> <200603110447.k2B4lbt10750@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200603121454.k2CEsDf05104@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200603140326.k2E3QFs05473@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1142352896 15865 80.91.229.2 (14 Mar 2006 16:14:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wohler@newt.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 14 17:14:54 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJC6z-00029e-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:11:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJC6y-0007yS-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FJC5q-0007Et-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FJC5q-0007EQ-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJC5p-0007EE-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJCA4-0003zw-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:14:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FJC5p-0001Z1-08; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:53 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200603140326.k2E3QFs05473@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:26:16 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:51601 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62240 Archived-At: One could reduce it from 2811 to 2635 and possibly _slightly_ less because there may be a few cases I overlooked. This requires eliminating several :version keywords that are _older_ than the :version in the defgroup, because the defcustom got moved to a new group. I don't follow the scenario you describe, but don't bother explaining it. Reduction down to 2635 lines is not enough reduction to make the situation much better. We need stronger measures. We need to give this some structure. Here's an idea. customize-changed could work like customize-browse, except that it would show only the groups that cover settings which have changed meanings. What do you think?