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> Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org,  emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org,  id.brep@gmail.com,
> 	  ding@gnus.org
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:22:51 -0400
> 
> I'm not quite sure what is a "unibyte session"

A.k.a. "emacs --unibyte".

> but I think "stay 100% in
> unibyte" is fairly clear: only use unibyte buffers and strings in the
> relevant code (while other unrelated buffers and strings may be multibyte).

I think it's practically impossible to use only unibyte buffers for
any serious work, and therefore I don't consider this a feasible
solution.

If one uses the default multibyte session, using unibyte strings is
prone to subtle problems as described in this thread.