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    Code which implicitly converts text from multibyte to unibyte (and vice
    versa), using nonascii-*, will presumably be used in all kinds of locales,
    including BIG5 ones.  So knowing what happens in this case is
    still relevant.

It is not hard to know what happens--that is documented in the Lisp
Manual.  (Do you think any of it is not clear?)

Meanwhile, I think that the presumption of the above text is incorrect.
Unibyte text can only handle certain European alphabets.  If you use
unibyte text, you should make sure to use it only for them.