From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65576 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:56:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194422235 26848 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2007 07:57:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ueno@unixuser.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, miles@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14076@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Nov 07 08:57:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ipfmn-0004YG-UD for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:57:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipflr-0000AL-T9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:56:19 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipflo-00009j-HX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:56:16 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipfli-0004t2-Kb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:56:16 -0600 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ipfld-0003M3-00 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:56:05 +0100 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ipflg-0004Y6-P9; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:56:08 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Ted Zlatanov on Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:58:50 -0600) X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65576 gmane.emacs.devel:82710 Archived-At: Steganography is useful, in particular, and GnuPG doesn't support it. Users could hide secret information, or messages for other users, or watermarks. Steganography is certainly useful, but the question is whether users want to use encrypt.el. RS> - pure Lisp ciphers for quick experimentation and sharing RS> That seems unimportant to me. I think cryptography is a field where experimentation is very important. Wouldn't you like to see Emacs become a breeding ground for cryptography work? Encryption programs generally need to be fast. Emacs Lisp doesn't seem very good for the job.