From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65894 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: syncing from Emacs to Gnus Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:12:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196907212 23266 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2007 02:13:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14389@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 06 03:13:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J06F9-00078P-4C for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:13:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J06EG-0000bu-12; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:12:44 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J06EE-0000bc-8T for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:12:42 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J06E8-00049e-ER for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:12:42 -0600 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1J06E5-0007Zv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:12:33 +0100 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J06E6-0000Ee-0Z; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:12:34 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:59:44 -0500) X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65894 gmane.emacs.devel:84769 Archived-At: As I said, many/most of those packages were written specifically for Gnus. I.e. if it weren't for Gnus they wouldn't exist. The fact that the author was careful to try and make it generic, expecting potential uses in other packages, doesn't change anything to it. What thus changes is the right way to install the file: in Emacs, outside of Gnus. Over time, those packages may/will find uses in other packages and will start to take a life or their own, and separate from Gnus, That's a misleading description of what has happened. These packages were general in nature from the very start. It is not chance or coincidence that they "found uses" outside of Gnus. That was inevitable in their design purpose. When people write these packages, even if the motive for writing them is about Gnus, the right way to install them is as general packages in Emacs.