From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67673 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:08:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224796307 15606 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2008 21:11:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 23 23:12:45 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kt7Ty-0004bv-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:12:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt7Sr-0003DX-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt7Sm-0003AI-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt7Sk-000383-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55125 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt7Sj-00037h-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50187) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kt7Sj-0007Oy-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kt7Q2-0002yL-Nw; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:08:34 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:34:05 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104909 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67673 Archived-At: KH> (http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets), there's no KH> alias names for "UTF-8". > Why should that be relevant? Because, as far as I know, that is the only authority registering coding system names comprehensively (even though they mix them with character set names). So what? This is a matter of what is convenient for users of Emacs. It has nothing to do with anyone's "authority". In GNU, we do not obey standards. We take account of them in order to figure out what is The Right Thing. The fact that a certain name has no meaning according to some standard means the standard offers no obstacle to whatever we want to do.