From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67678 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:01:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86abct3o4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224900310 28262 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2008 02:05:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 25 04:06:11 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KtYXa-0001ZE-7E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:06:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34948 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtYWU-0006gb-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtYVw-0006IE-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtYVv-0006HK-0x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59666 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtYVu-0006HC-Td for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53650) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KtYVu-0004F0-KV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KtYTF-0002jw-IU; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:01:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <86abct3o4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:21:23 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104976 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67678 Archived-At: I think completing utf8 to utf-8 is the best solution as you and Stephen described, so it's worth some code. It would look strange for completion to make such a change within a word of the user's input. It may be ok, but let's not forget the easy alternative: accept that input without having it visibly change in the minibuffer. For instance, completing-read could accept a list of alternatives that are valid if entered, but should not affect completion.