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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:33:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KvnZZ-0002N0-DI@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ktwxk-0006vn-3F@fencepost.gnu.org> (rms@gnu.org)

In article <E1Ktwxk-0006vn-3F@fencepost.gnu.org>, "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     By the way, with such a behavior, when one types "utf8 TAB
>     TAB", what completion list should we show?

> That is a hard question.  Perhaps it should show the same
> analogous set of completions

>     utf8 	utf8-auto
>     utf8-auto-dos 	utf8-auto-mac
>     utf8-auto-unix 	utf8-dos
>     utf8-emacs 	utf8-emacs-dos
>     utf8-emacs-mac 	utf8-emacs-unix
>     utf8-mac 	utf8-unix
>     utf8-with-signature 	utf8-with-signature-dos
>     utf8-with-signature-mac 	utf8-with-signature-unix

> These could be treated somewhat like `completion-ignored-extensions'
> for filenames: if a first-class name is a possible completion
> then you don't see the second-class ones.  If no first-class name
> is possible, then you do see the second-class ones.

In the case of filenames, there surely exist the actual file
with those ignored extensions.  But, in the case of coding
systems, such an alias as "utf8" doesn't exist.  Or do you
still propose to make such an alias as a sencond-class name
in advance?  If so, I strongly oppose to it.  If we are
going to allow users to type all names that are accepted by
iconv, we must make so many aliases.

I still thinks completing "utf8" to "utf-8" is the best
method.  Even for a filename, if there's a file "test-a" and
I type "tes-a TAB", it is expanded to "test-a".  So,
changing "utf8" to "utf-8" doesn't look that strange.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@ni.aist.go.jp




  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-31  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 20:30 jidanni
2008-10-14 20:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15  0:39   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-15 16:10     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-15 17:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 19:49       ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 19:05         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 22:03           ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 21:23             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  0:15               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-20 16:23                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-21  0:01                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-15 23:35                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-16  4:32               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-16  6:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 13:01                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  2:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 14:27               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-16 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 17:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-17 19:59                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-18 19:01                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  1:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-20  3:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  8:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-20 17:04                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  4:39                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21  5:23                               ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  6:25                                 ` tomas
2008-10-21  6:21                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  7:44                                     ` tomas
2008-10-21  8:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21  9:06                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 10:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21 12:06                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 12:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22  2:34                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  4:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22  0:32                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  4:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-27  4:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21  8:06                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-20 16:00                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-20 22:03                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  2:50                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21 16:00                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-22  1:22                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  2:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  6:21                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-23  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-23 21:08                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-24  0:54                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-24 18:36                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 13:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 17:21                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-25  2:01                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25  2:32                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31  6:33                                   ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2008-10-31  7:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-10-31 19:31                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-01  2:17                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-02  1:53                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-07  7:15                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 17:04                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25 18:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31 21:29                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  5:43                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 15:01                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16  1:12         ` Kenichi Handa

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