From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/14570 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hallvard B Furuseth Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: no forced authinfo in 5.6.2? Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:06:40 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035153741 16951 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:42:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05891 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:17:48 -0800 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02694 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:12:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAN10518; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:47:46 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:09:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from Post-Office.UH.EDU (Post-Office.UH.EDU [129.7.1.20]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18411 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:09:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com ([208.205.12.23]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #18580) with SMTP id <01IUMKVHXJUM0003WT@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:08:55 CST Original-Received: (qmail 7211 invoked by uid 504); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:06:46 +0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7208 invoked from network); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:06:45 +0000 Original-Received: from mons.uio.no (HELO mons) (6089@129.240.130.14) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:06:45 +0000 Original-Received: from bombur2.uio.no (actually bombur2.uio.no [129.240.200.72]) by mons with SMTP (PP); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:06:43 +0100 Original-Received: by bombur2.uio.no ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:06:42 +0100 (MET) In-reply-to: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "13 Mar 1998 22:18:48 +0100" Original-To: ding@gnus.org Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14570 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14570 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> (...) force authinfo on an NNTP server that doesn't ask for it. > > Well, I didn't feel it was resolved. Should I add a "force" tag? If nntp-authinfo-file is .netrc-compatible just because you wanted to reuse existing code to parse .netrc: I don't see any reason *not* to send authinfo to a machine mentioned in .authinforc. If I have an authinfo password there, why would I want not to use it? (Our NNTP server does not ask for authinfo, but it does not give me the department's private group unless I send authinfo.) If nntp-authinfo-file is .netrc-compatible so we can point it to .netrc: Bummer. * I can't have different FTP user/password and NNTP user/password on the same machine. * If I insert `machine some.server login hbf password newspassword', then the `ftp some.server' command will try to log in with my NNTP username and password. * If the same machine has a trusted FTP maintainer and an untrusted (unknown/experimental/...) NNTP maintainer, and it has my FTP password in .netrc, then the NNTP maintainer can ask Gnus to send him my FTP password. Maybe this format will fix it: machine some.server login hbf password ftppassword machine nntp/some.server login hbf password newspassword As above, I don't see any reason to not send the NNTP password if you use this format. OTOH, maybe some FTP implementations will barf on the 2nd line, since they know that hostnames don't look like that. (BTW, I used `/' instead of `:' because I've heard IPv6 hostnames may contain `:'. Or maybe they can contain `/' too?) -- Hallvard