* Postponing messages
@ 1998-10-24 23:17 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-24 23:31 ` Chris Tessone
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-24 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
The `C-c C-d' buries the current Message buffer and returns to where
you were. Should this command also rename the buffer to something
else -- like from "*reply to Blabla*" to "*unsent reply to Blabla*"?
--
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larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-24 23:17 Postponing messages Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-10-24 23:31 ` Chris Tessone
1998-10-24 23:53 ` Harry Putnam
1998-10-26 17:24 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
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From: Chris Tessone @ 1998-10-24 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> The `C-c C-d' buries the current Message buffer and returns
Lars> to where you were. Should this command also rename the
Lars> buffer to something else -- like from "*reply to Blabla*" to
Lars> "*unsent reply to Blabla*"?
Yes, IMHO.
--
Chris Tessone tessone@fnal.gov tessone@imsa.edu
PH/sendmail SNPC System Administration Perl/Shell
All you need is Perl, love. Perl is all you need.
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-24 23:17 Postponing messages Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-24 23:31 ` Chris Tessone
@ 1998-10-24 23:53 ` Harry Putnam
1998-10-27 12:54 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-10-26 17:24 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
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From: Harry Putnam @ 1998-10-24 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> The `C-c C-d' buries the current Message buffer and returns to where
> you were. Should this command also rename the buffer to something
> else -- like from "*reply to Blabla*" to "*unsent reply to Blabla*"?
Well, it might be worthwhile but, sent messages already indicate when
they are sent so it seems it might be redundant. If it doesn't say
`sent' you know it isn't.
--
Harry Putnam reader@newsguy.com
Running Redhat Linux-5.1
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-24 23:53 ` Harry Putnam
@ 1998-10-27 12:54 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-10-27 16:06 ` Dan Christensen
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1998-10-27 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
>> On 24 Oct 1998 16:53:31 -0700
>>>>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> said:
Harry> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>> The `C-c C-d' buries the current Message buffer and returns to
>> where you were. Should this command also rename the buffer to
>> something else -- like from "*reply to Blabla*" to "*unsent reply
>> to Blabla*"?
Harry> Well, it might be worthwhile but, sent messages already
Harry> indicate when they are sent so it seems it might be redundant.
Harry> If it doesn't say `sent' you know it isn't.
I second this. Mostly I don't explicitly bury a message buffer, it
rather gets buried by other work (me loading files, etc.). So I would
end with buried "*reply foobar*" and "*unsent reply quuxbaz*" buffers,
the only difference being that I rememberd to do C-c C-d on quuxbaz.
OTOH, I'd like message buffers to have the same prefix (now they have
"*reply" or "*followup" and I usually can't remember which one).
Perhaps these buffers could be called "*unsent bla*" right from the
start. You can do "C-x b *unsent TAB" then to see all messages hanging
in limbo right now.
Robbe
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-27 12:54 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
@ 1998-10-27 16:06 ` Dan Christensen
1998-10-28 7:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Dan Christensen @ 1998-10-27 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> OTOH, I'd like message buffers to have the same prefix (now they have
> "*reply" or "*followup" and I usually can't remember which one).
> Perhaps these buffers could be called "*unsent bla*" right from the
> start. You can do "C-x b *unsent TAB" then to see all messages hanging
> in limbo right now.
I would also like all messages to have the same prefix. I often
can't remember whether it's a "reply" or a "wide reply" or a "followup"
or just "mail".
Dan
--
Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-27 16:06 ` Dan Christensen
@ 1998-10-28 7:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-28 9:17 ` Lee Willis
1998-10-28 9:31 ` Hrvoje Niksic
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-28 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Dan Christensen <jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu> writes:
> I would also like all messages to have the same prefix. I often
> can't remember whether it's a "reply" or a "wide reply" or a "followup"
> or just "mail".
This makes sense, but I don't know whether it's worthwhile to change
this at this point. People must have gotten used to the current
naming scheme by now...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-28 7:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-10-28 9:17 ` Lee Willis
1998-10-29 10:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-28 9:31 ` Hrvoje Niksic
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From: Lee Willis @ 1998-10-28 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Dan Christensen <jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu> writes:
>
> This makes sense, but I don't know whether it's worthwhile to change
> this at this point. People must have gotten used to the current
> naming scheme by now...
But surely just because people are used to it doesn't mean that it's
right?
Since we're in a new development cycle thang it would make sense to
change it here (If anywhere ...). Perhaps have a toggle so that people
can choose which naming scheme they want?
Lee.
--
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...
For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks"
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-28 9:17 ` Lee Willis
@ 1998-10-29 10:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-29 10:55 ` Lee Willis
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-29 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lee Willis <lee@gbdirect.co.uk> writes:
> But surely just because people are used to it doesn't mean that it's
> right?
If people are used to something, the gains that are made in changing
something must be substantial. I don't think changing the naming
scheme of the Message buffers is a substantial gain.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-29 10:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-10-29 10:55 ` Lee Willis
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From: Lee Willis @ 1998-10-29 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lee Willis <lee@gbdirect.co.uk> writes:
>
> > But surely just because people are used to it doesn't mean that it's
> > right?
>
> If people are used to something, the gains that are made in changing
> something must be substantial.
Unless the change is backwards-compatible. Ie people that have no need
to change don't, whereas new users can use the new method, as can people
who would find it more useful ...
Lee.
--
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...
For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks"
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-28 7:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-28 9:17 ` Lee Willis
@ 1998-10-28 9:31 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-10-28 9:45 ` Chris Tessone
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From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-10-28 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Dan Christensen <jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu> writes:
>
> > I would also like all messages to have the same prefix. I often
> > can't remember whether it's a "reply" or a "wide reply" or a "followup"
> > or just "mail".
>
> This makes sense, but I don't know whether it's worthwhile to change
> this at this point. People must have gotten used to the current
> naming scheme by now...
I, for one, did -- I like the current naming of the buffers. The only
thing I would like added is for the postponed buffers to be named
thusly.
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Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-28 9:31 ` Hrvoje Niksic
@ 1998-10-28 9:45 ` Chris Tessone
1998-10-29 10:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Chris Tessone @ 1998-10-28 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
Hrvoje> I, for one, did -- I like the current naming of the
Hrvoje> buffers. The only thing I would like added is for the
Hrvoje> postponed buffers to be named thusly.
Yup. Same here. I suppose that having something like:
(setq gnus-buffers-naming 'classic)
or
(setq gnus-buffers-naming 'newage)
would be okay, with the former doing the current way of naming buffers
and the latter naming them like (perhaps):
*mail to Bob (sent)*
*mail to Bob (sent wide reply)*
*mail to Bob (sent reply)*
etc.
Chris
--
But I installed the *last* dc-like program for Linux that we didn't install!
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-28 9:45 ` Chris Tessone
@ 1998-10-29 10:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-29 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Chris Tessone <tessone@imsa.edu> writes:
> Yup. Same here. I suppose that having something like:
>
> (setq gnus-buffers-naming 'classic)
> or
> (setq gnus-buffers-naming 'newage)
Ok; I've now extended message-generate-new-buffers to have `unique'
and `unsent' as values. Defaults to the current behavior.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Postponing messages
1998-10-24 23:17 Postponing messages Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-10-24 23:31 ` Chris Tessone
1998-10-24 23:53 ` Harry Putnam
@ 1998-10-26 17:24 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
1998-10-26 21:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-26 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> The `C-c C-d' buries the current Message buffer and returns to where
> you were. Should this command also rename the buffer to something
> else -- like from "*reply to Blabla*" to "*unsent reply to Blabla*"?
That reminds me: How do I prevent Gnus from renaming message buffers
when I send the message? :-)
I'd rather have "Sent" or something in minor-mode-alist.
--
Hallvard
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