Re: How to change the default ~/Mail and ~/News dirs with their subdirs?

["romeomedina\@libero\.it" <romeomedina@libero.it>]

I have:
Gnus version 5.11, included in Emacs CVS 21.3.50.1 of 2005-03-13.

Rodolfo wrote:

> I'd like to change the gnus default `~/Mail' and '~/News' directories,
> together with all their subdirectories:
> '~/Mail/drafts', '~/Mail/queue', '~/Mail/mail/misc',
> '~/News/agent', '~/News/lib' etcetera,
> into other dirs and subdirs at my pleasure.


Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Just out of curiosity: Why?


Because I want to decide where to put my stuff, and besides:
I'm totally new to the 'newrseaderly fashion' gnus is conceived,
and I still haven't even well understood what a newsreader actually is.
I come from MS Outlook world, only know about sending and receiving
e-mails from internet and am just now having a look at gnus,
that for me is very very strange (although interesting).
So I don't understand the meaning of subdirectories such as 'agent',
'lib', 'queue', and so on. Now, as beginner, I only need three directories:
received-mail, sent-mail and drafts, included under a superdirectory 'mail'.
Nothing more, nothing less. In future, when I've learned more about
using gnus, and will be able to understand the meaning of the other dirs,
I will maybe be using them.
At the moment I'm not actually even using gnus, I'm preparing things in order
to migrate from MS Outlook to Gnus.


Rodolfo:

> Can anyone suggest how? What variables shall I customize? I couldn't
> work it out from the Gnus Manual.


Adam:

> How about:
>
> ~/Mail:
>
> ,----[ C-h v message-directory RET ]

> [...]
>
> ~/News:
>
> ,----[ C-h v gnus-directory RET ]
>
> [...]
>
> (and your 'gnus-message-archive-method'). Note: I haven't tried this,
> so I don't know how much more, if anything, you need to set.


Thanks indeed for your precious help (and also thanks to Katsumi Yamaoka for his help
about 'gnus-message-archive-method' customization).
I followed your indications, then performed searches in Gnus Manual from info buffer.


Adam:

>
> Where in the manual did you look? I just searched for '~/Mail' and
> '~/News'...


I have a paper copy of Gnus Manual, and was searching things through its index,
which is quite poor. I'd never used the info buffer before.

Now the situation is the following:
the complete tree of the directories that Gnus creates by default under the '~/' directory
is something like:


   ~/
    |
    |
    |
    /Mail
    |   |
    |   |
    |   /drafts
    |   |
    |   |
    |   /mail
    |       |
    |       |
    |       /misc
    |
    |
    |
    /News
        |
        |
	/agent
	|    |
	|    |
	|    /lib
	|
	|
	/drafts
	      |
	      |
	      /drafts
	      |
	      |
	      /queue


. Now, I wanted to change the gnus default directories '~/Mail' and '~/News',
together with all their subdirs, into other dirs and subdirs at my pleasure.
To do that, I had to customize the 'message-directory' and 'gnus-directory',
but not only. I customized the following variables altogether
(maybe other ones have to be customized as well):


variable name	       	     	     gnus default value
-------------			     ------------------

message-directory		     ~/Mail
gnus-directory			     ~/News
nnml-directory			     ~/Mail
nnml-active-file		     ~/Mail/active
nnml-newsgroups-file		     ~/Mail/newsgroups
nndraft-directory		     ~/News/drafts
gnus-message-archive-method	     (nnfolder "archive"
               			               (nnfolder-directory   "~/Mail/archive")
               				       (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
               				       (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
               				       (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))
nnfolder-directory		     ~/Mail/archive
nnfolder-active-file		     ~/Mail/archive/active



, the latter two included in the 'gnus-message-archive-method' variable setting.
Note that what is said in §5.5 of Gnus Manual about the default value of
'gnus-message-archive-method' is not according to what is said in §6.3.13.10 about
the default values of 'nnfolder-directory' and 'nnfolder-active-file'.

'message-directory' and 'gnus-directory' have to be set in the ~/.emacs file,
the other ones in the ~/.gnus.el file.

After setting all those variables, the ~/Mail and ~/News dirctories didn't
exist any more and the above tree became:


   ~/
    |
    |
    |
    /mail
	|
	|
	|
	/agent
	|    |
	|    |
	|    |
	|    /lib
	|
	|
	|
	/drafts
	|
	|
	|
	/queue
	|
	|
	|
	/received-mail
	|
	|
	|
	/sent-mail


. Now, I want to get rid of the subdirs 'agent', 'agent/lib' and 'queue'.
Can anyone suggest how? I searched through the info buffer
but couldn't work the problem out.

Thanks,
Rodolfo




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