From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44523 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: amos+lists.ding@utdallas.edu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Autoloads no longer working? Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:58:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020182377 30612 127.0.0.1 (30 Apr 2002 15:59:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 172a2S-0007xd-00 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:59:36 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 172a1V-0000kt-00; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:58:37 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:58:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02361 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:58:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 16634 invoked by alias); 30 Apr 2002 15:58:21 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16629 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 15:58:21 -0000 Original-Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (129.110.10.1) by gnus.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 15:58:21 -0000 Original-Received: from spartacus.utdallas.edu (spartacus.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25351A073E for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:58:12 -0500 (CDT) X-X-Sender: amos@spartacus.utdallas.edu Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44523 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44523 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > Actually, I noticed that these happen before the ~/.gnus gets loaded: I > only get these messages: > > ,---- > | Loading gnus... > | eval: Symbol's function definition is void: mm-guess-mime-charset > `---- I just finished reading this thread after running into this too. Though, I didn't see anything that might be applicable. After using xemacs and gnus-0.05 (?) (CVS from not too long ago), I decided to give latest emacs a try. In fact I figured what the hell: I'll try both latest emacs and gnus from CVS. (I expect to be using OS X on a TiBook before long and wanted the Aqua support checked into emacs.) Before going to xemacs I would add to the load path the directory for my copy of gnus and the associated info files. For years this worked fine. (With xemacs I just dumped all this stuff into ~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages and xemacs found everything on its own. I have to admit this has its advantages....) So, I tried to restore my old stuff so that I could go back to emacs. First I ran into that error above. Thinking it might be just that specific library, I just did an explicit 'M-x load-library mm-util'. That got me further. Though, eventually I ran into: Symbol's function definition is void: gnus-update-alist-soft Okay, since I don't expect anybody else to be using this particular install of emacs, I just blew away lisp/gnus and info/gnus*. I figured I'd just pretend for now that emacs doesn't come with this. Obviously not something I'd prefer to do, but I thought I'd give it a try. Well, when I do the 'make bootstrap' I now run into: Compiling /usr/soft/that/emacs-21.2.cvs/src/default/sparc_sun_solaris2.8/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el /usr/soft/that/emacs-21.2.cvs/src/default/sparc_sun_solaris2.8/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el: In toplevel form /usr/soft/that/emacs-21.2.cvs/src/default/sparc_sun_solaris2.8/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el: error: file error (("C annot open load file" "gnus")) make[1]: *** [compile] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/soft/that/emacs-21.2.cvs/src/default/sparc_sun_solaris2.8/lisp' make: *** [bootstrap-lisp] Error 2 Hmmm... I thought that was interesting, and perhaps overlooked. Anyway, I guess I'll next dump the gnus from CVS into the directories that emacs is expected to have. Maybe that'll work better. However, I've got to run for now. -Amos