From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40244 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: PGP support Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:53:53 +0100 (CET) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <877ksvpmdv.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175824 32320 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:50:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 16337 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2001 09:54:42 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 09:54:42 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 163aGo-00044r-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:54:18 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:54:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA21720 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:53:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 15845 invoked by alias); 13 Nov 2001 09:54:02 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15831 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2001 09:54:01 -0000 Original-Received: from slipsten.extundo.com (195.42.214.241) by gnus.org with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 09:54:01 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAD9rrF20617; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:53:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Original-To: Matt Armstrong In-Reply-To: <877ksvpmdv.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40244 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40244 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Matt Armstrong wrote: > Simon Josefsson writes: > > > Thanks to Sascha Lüdecke ROT13() we now have PGP (as > > in RFC 1991, not 2015/3156 which we already have) support in CVS. > > For the RFC ignorant, what is the difference? > > I think we had PGP/MIME. What is RFC 1991? PGP (RFC 1991/2440) means plain (Open)PGP blobs inserted into mail without any MIME awareness at all. It is what Mailcrypt natively supports. PGP/MIME (RFC 2015/3156) is PGP with MIME awareness. Oort has supported PGP/MIME for some time, using gpg.el or Mailcrypt as the backend. With a few more menu items and commands added to Gnus, such as "Insert Public Key", I don't have to use the Mailcrypt menu hooks at all. Also, it would be nice if we could interop with those Outlook PGP plugins. It seems as if they support a MIME-aware PGP mode that isn't 2015/3156, but rather having all MIME headers etc look as if it was a unencrypted mail, and before sending, wrapping each MIME body in a PGP blob. Everyone I communicate with seem to use the stuff, so I'll probably add it. Maybe we should add a FSF-owned PGP-backend as well. The FLIM/SEMI people seem to have one, but it requires a few files that look old and non-FSF-owned. Hm.. > > As you can see, the PGP armors are QPified. > > For the lingo ignorant like myself, what does QPified mean? :-) QP is a horrible escape language for non-ASCII stuff in mail. "To QPify" means to add QP encoding in a piece of data. That's about all you want to know about QP, I think. :-)