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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Lloyd Zusman wrote:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
> >
> >> [ ... ]
> >> 
> >> Is this the case?  If so, what recent Gnus features work better under
> >> FSF Emacs?
> >> 
> >> Or if this is not the case, what Gnus features work better under XEmacs?
> >
> > Perhaps it is only that Oort added support for things in Emacs that XEmacs
> > has supported for a long time.  Images and stuff.
> >
> > The manual says Picons only works for XEmacs.  It also says XEmacs usually
> > supports compface internally, Emacs only via external program.  It also
> > says that XEmacs Gnus has a logo and toolbar while Emacs doesn't.  Other 
> > than that, I can't find much differences in the manual.
> >
> > Personally, I find unicode works better with Oort in Emacs than in XEmacs.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Isn't there something involving network access or DNS or something like
> that, which exists in FSF Emacs and which recent Oort's can make use of?
> Or am I completely off base?

Right, but I couldn't find it mentioned in the manual, so it can't exist,
can it. :-)

XEmacs doesn't support UDP network connections.  Perhaps dns.el fall back 
to TCP now though, which XEmacs support, so it shouldn't be a major 
problem.