From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44713 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4rhlmlpe.fsf@mail.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020694243 19438 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 14:10:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174jCN-00053J-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 16:10:43 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174jBU-0005ET-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 09:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 06 May 2002 09:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA02718 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 09:09:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 14817 invoked by alias); 6 May 2002 14:09:31 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14812 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 14:09:31 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 May 2002 14:09:31 -0000 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g46E9TQ4008516; Mon, 6 May 2002 16:09:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.3/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g46E9TQQ008513; Mon, 6 May 2002 16:09:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: yxa.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Original-To: Dmitry Bely In-Reply-To: <4rhlmlpe.fsf@mail.ru> Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44713 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44713 On Mon, 6 May 2002, Dmitry Bely wrote: > >> All XEmacs packages are already precompiled. You may include them in the > >> distribution, my update them off the XEmacs website, or may create > >> the necessary .deb packages, that will be handled by apt/dselect. In any > >> case I fail to understand why having Gnus included into Emacs tarball (and > >> following FSF copyright policy) is so important. > > > > Because it is included? > > So there is no real reason. Having it included is reason enough for me. I would agree that it would be _better_ if Emacs supported a package system so that Gnus could be released more frequently, but last time I saw the discussion about package systems on emacs-devel I got the impression that RMS didn't like it. > This topic was started from Florian Weimer's statement that he cannot any > longer develop gpg.el because gpg.el does not follow FSF copyright policy > which is necessary because Gnus is included into GNU Emacs tarball. Yes, so gpg.el should be removed and replaced with a FSF-owned PGP/GPG interface IMHO. There is one called PGG and I'm looking at merging it into Gnus.