From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11860 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kyle Jones Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus date suggestion Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151501 407 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:05:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joda@pdc.kth.se (Johan Danielsson), "Jason R. Mastaler" , "(ding) Gnus Mailing List" , XEmacs Beta Discussion List Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12740 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:15:20 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27492 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:11:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 02:17:01 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 5453 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 1997 00:17:00 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5450 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1997 00:17:00 -0000 Original-Received: from relay3.UU.NET (192.48.96.8) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 1997 00:17:00 -0000 Original-Received: from crystal.WonderWorks.COM by relay3.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: crystal.WonderWorks.com [192.203.206.1]) id QQdbmi18518; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by crystal.WonderWorks.COM id QQdbmi06070; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 19:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: François Pinard In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Berlin" XEmacs Lucid (beta15) X-Face: /cA45WHG7jWq>(O3&Z57Y<"WsX5ddc,4c#w0F*zrV#=M 0@~@,s;b,aMtR5Sqs"+nU.z^CSFQ9t`z2>W,S,]:[+2^ Nbf6v4g>!&,7R4Ot4Wg{&tm=WX7P["9%a)_da48-^tGy ,qz]Z,Zz\{E.,]'EO+F)@$KtF&V Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11860 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11860 François Pinard writes: > joda@pdc.kth.se (Johan Danielsson) writes: > > | pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard) writes: > | > | > The usual wrong thing with dates is using local American habits in > | > wide distribution contexts (like mail and news) for when programs > | > have *not* been internationalised, or by default. ISO 8601 would be > | > a good default. > | > | Yes, but ISO 8601, although intuitive to me, is not very friendly > | to people used to other ways of writing dates, such as americans. > > You might have been educated by Americans :-). > > There are other cultures in this world than the American one. Have patience. We've only gotten serious about the business of assimilating/squashing other cultures within the last twenty years. These things take time. :-) > The trend is considering that for international matters, > choices should not always nor necessarily be American by > default. True, but there's no reason to antagonize Americans on purpose, is there? The fact that Americans might be confused is a valid complaint, isn't it?