From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43549 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Prolem with attachments. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:04:36 +1100 Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1014206811 9687 195.204.10.66 (20 Feb 2002 12:06:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Feb 2002 12:06:51 GMT Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16dVWL-0002W4-00; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:06:50 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16dVV6-0005b5-00; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:05:32 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:05:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA21804 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:05:21 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 5154 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 2002 12:05:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5149 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2002 12:05:15 -0000 Original-Received: from melancholia.rimspace.net (HELO melancholia.danann.net) (210.23.138.19) by gnus.org with SMTP; 20 Feb 2002 12:05:15 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67AE2A812 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:04:58 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B58CB820A4; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:04:37 +1100 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Matthieu Moy's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:51:53 +0100") Original-Lines: 60 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43549 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43549 On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Matthieu Moy wrote: > krause@sdbk.de (Sebastian D.B. Krause) writes: > >> Matthieu Moy writes: >>> message exceeds message-send-mail-partially-limit. Send in parts ? >>> >>> And I answered yes. >> >> If you say Gnus that it should send the mail in parts it does so. So >> just say 'no' here. > > But why should it send it in parts ? Because there are /still/ a lot of email gateways that bounce large messages or, worse, drop them silently or return a permanent fatal error when one is sent through them. > When is asked the question, I thought about multipart ? Maybe you could suggest a better way of phrasing a question that means: Should Gnus split this message up into smaller parts for transmission to avoid problems with mail gateways? > Is the real question "Should I send the message in a readable format?" Depends on your point of view. Many people who read the alt.binaries.* hierarchy can read 'message/partial'[1] mail.[2] > None of Gnus, Sure it can, at least with a recent Gnus. Hitting 'b' when viewing the first part of, say, a 'message/partial' tiff works fine for me. :) > Yahoo mail, That doesn't surprise me, because they suffer the same disease as every Windows MUA that I have met: they assume that messages are structured in one very simple way, so don't bother with a real MIME parser or display system. > and mutt seem to be able to read these multipart messages, so ... metamail should be able to put them together. I am actually surprised that Mutt can't, though. Are you /sure/ that it can't reassemble the attachment? Daniel Footnotes: [1] Er, is it 'message', 'application' or what? I can't remember. *sigh* [2] At least, I presume they can. There are certainly enough of them going through the thing. :) -- Maybe I am not very human - What I wanted to do was to paint sunlight on the side of a house. -- Edward Hopper