From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43641 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What is happening in agentized groups? Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:26:46 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2nsn7pnzy6.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1014676598 1242 195.204.10.66 (25 Feb 2002 22:36:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2002 22:36:38 GMT Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16fTjZ-0000Jl-00; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:36:37 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16fTer-0005nM-00; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:31:45 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:31:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16640 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:31:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 1333 invoked by alias); 25 Feb 2002 22:31:20 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1328 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2002 22:31:19 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 22:31:19 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26117 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1PMUje22830; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:30:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:11:36 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1.80 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 29 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43641 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43641 Simon Josefsson writes: > The Agent has a hard coded behaviour not to download read articles. > There was a patch that added a new predicate `read' and changed the > default predicate from short into (and (not read) short) but I > couldn't find a way to make it backwards compatible so I hesitated > about commiting it. But I'm not sure if readedness is causing your > problem though. > How can I find out? I suspect that for some time agent isn't keeping what it downloads. I haven't really checked and can't think of a way to find out immediately either. I guess I will record the number of messages in all agentized groups today and then check them in a week or so. My Categories buffer looks like: default: 0 The predicate is `true' About that readedness thing; shouldn't the agent just download according to predicate and score, not mindfull of readedness. One might read a message in plugged mode but still want it downloaded. In fact, I would think that would be pretty much the norm. I'd prefer the agent not pay attention to what I do when plugged. At the very least, a predicate of `true' should download everthing, regardless. I would think.