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Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> Where did you contact the XEmacs maintainers about a common image
> API?

I didn't.  I got the history when I went to implement image features.
I don't see why details are important or why people think I'd make it
up.

> I searched the xemacs-beta archives and couldn't find it there.

I wouldn't have expected to find it there, but see
<URL:http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/199809/msg00370.html>.
Note that was before core Emacs developers knew about it.
The subsequent exchange that caused the bad feeling was not there.

It's clear from that archive that XEmacs people had access
specifically to the Emacs 21 image API (which became image.el) and to
Emacs pretest source.  You can also see Gerd's collaboration over the
hash table API, but not other exchanges he and I (at least) had.
These often just made us more circumspect.  There's obviously plenty
on that list about Emacs and its developers which is misleading at
best.

This is now definitely not relevant to Gnus, even considering the
connexion of Bill Perry's work on inline images (which exhibited the
image API originally on the ding list).