From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43686 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That old flamewar again [was Re: recent smiley.el changes] Date: 27 Feb 2002 20:10:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1014840918 18407 195.204.10.66 (27 Feb 2002 20:15:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Feb 2002 20:15:18 GMT Cc: Jan Vroonhof , ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16gATt-0004mi-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:15:17 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16gAPZ-0001K6-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:10:49 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:10:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26946 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:10:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 25940 invoked by alias); 27 Feb 2002 20:10:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 25935 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2002 20:10:34 -0000 Original-Received: from djlvig.dl.ac.uk (148.79.112.146) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Feb 2002 20:10:34 -0000 Original-Received: from fx by djlvig.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16gAPE-0007o1-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:10:28 +0000 Original-To: Fabrice Popineau Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1.80 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43686 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43686 Fabrice Popineau writes: > The bad effect of the 'new' version is that it just breaks Gnus, I don't know what you're talking about. What I wrote works fine in Emacs 21 (which was the point of doing it) and isn't used in Emacs 20 or XEmacs (where it won't work). If you're picking it up in XEmacs, I don't know why, and you'll have to debug the problem. > Also, this might be stupid, but the image names you are using are not > the same as the ones that are distributed with XEmacs for years ! Read the commentary I wrote. > I don't think that replacing something which is working I didn't replace anything; I added completely new code, as I had to justify before. Smilification previously didn't work in Emacs and now it does (demonstrating infelicities). It's hardly very useful, but there you are. > by something that might work better one day but which does not seem > to have been tested extensively is such a good idea, especially for > newbies. smiley-ems.el was certainly tested. That was essentially its purpose. If someone has broken it so that it affects you, take it up with them. I only use Gnus 5.9 in Emacs 21.