From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43688 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That old flamewar again [was Re: recent smiley.el changes] Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:25:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1014851205 25941 195.204.10.66 (27 Feb 2002 23:06:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Feb 2002 23:06:45 GMT Cc: Fabrice Popineau , Jan Vroonhof , ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16gD9n-0006kE-00; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 00:06:43 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16gCxO-0001tR-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:53:54 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:53:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from epithumia.math.uh.edu (epithumia.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27706 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:53:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by epithumia.math.uh.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) id g1RMrgF01204 for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:53:42 -0600 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27425 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:26:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 27757 invoked by alias); 27 Feb 2002 21:26:37 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27752 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2002 21:26:37 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Feb 2002 21:26:37 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g1RLQ0b02802; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:26:00 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id WAA26323; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:25:49 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id 64D413ACFB; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:25:49 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Dave Love In-Reply-To: (Dave Love's message of "27 Feb 2002 20:10:27 +0000") Original-Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43688 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43688 Dave Love writes: > Fabrice Popineau writes: > >> The bad effect of the 'new' version is that it just breaks Gnus, > > I don't know what you're talking about. What I wrote works fine in > Emacs 21 (which was the point of doing it) and isn't used in Emacs 20 > or XEmacs (where it won't work). If you're picking it up in XEmacs, I > don't know why, and you'll have to debug the problem. Dave, it seems you're not aware of the following change (note the last line): /----[ gnus/lisp/ChangeLog ] | 2002-01-26 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | | * nnheader.el (nnheader-insert-nov-file): Increased cutoff to | 32K. | | * gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-expire-articles): Clean up. | | * nnmail.el (nnmail-article-group): Decode headers before running | split rules over them. | (nnmail-mail-splitting-charset): New variable. | | * smiley.el: Replaced with smiley-ems.el. \---- I guess the other folks are talking about this. Well. Not sure what to do here. Fabrice, do you now understand Dave's reaction better? kai -- ~~/.signature is: umop 3p!sdn (Frank Nobis)