From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39826 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Schmitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: info issue Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:14:26 +0100 Organization: Hamme net, kren mer och nimmi Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175475 30027 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:44:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 6935 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2001 21:22:17 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 21:22:17 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15zPHI-0007sw-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:21:32 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:21:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22261 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:20:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 6881 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2001 21:20:56 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6876 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2001 21:20:55 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (HELO quimby2.netfonds.no) (195.204.10.66) by gnus.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 21:20:55 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby2.netfonds.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15zPQl-0005Qi-00 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:31:19 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pppin58.max-hochsimmer.rz-online.net Original-X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1004650279 20875 212.7.169.58 (1 Nov 2001 21:31:19 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Nov 2001 21:31:19 GMT X-Posting-Agent: Hamster/1.3.23.1 X-Face: "?Hv7MyYveeGDm66,O\f[l6!L*,`Q)c&3'8{9UGIM`EO8<3ASfX`8}W+u;F},&V%/y+cz(z&spQ(`CkKzCJY/@0R]aM#[W7*$(,QA-oO0f}Z2S0Y0~b5}|XDhQds[9}=t$Hf%G2c;zR%;$"~eI+dw3Gy!xKw=oduK(-, User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (Windows), i586-pc-win32) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 52 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39826 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39826 The info says the following: ___________________________________________________________________________ |Gnus, by default, handles all its groups using the same approach. This |approach is very newsreaderly--you enter a group, see the new/unread |messages, and when you read the messages, they get marked as read, and |you don't see them any more. (Unless you explicitly ask for them.) | |In particular, you do not do anything explicitly to delete messages. | |Does this mean that all the messages that have been marked as read are |deleted? How awful! | |But, no, it means that old messages are "expired" according to some |scheme or other. For news messages, the expire process is controlled by |the news administrator; for mail, the expire process is controlled by |you. The expire process for mail is covered in depth in *Note Expiring |Mail::. |___________________________________________________________________________ This is AFAIK unclear. I'd change it to: Does this mean that all the messages that have been marked as read are deleted? How awful! But no. It means, that mails which are old are deleted, but only after you allowed Gnus to do so for this specific message or all messages in one specific group. This is somehow similar to the expire processes on a newsserver and so we call this expiring, too. The expire process for mail is covered in depth... P.S. I'm talking about the node "Select methods"->"getting mail"->"mail in a newsreader" P.P.S I love the last paragraph of this node. P.P.P.S I love my hamster (my local newsserver) because I can edit my message even after I told gnus to send it. P.P.P.P.S That's a hell of P's, isn't it? P.P.P.P.P.S I frighten that the lines header isn't valid anymore. P.P.P.P.P.P.S I corrected it now. P.P.P.P.P.P.P.S Damned, broken again! (Do you now recursion?) -- One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. 19. Dezember 2001