From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63977 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: autoload variables Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:27:05 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163417563 4812 80.91.229.2 (13 Nov 2006 11:32:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12501@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Nov 13 12:32:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gja3E-0001gy-7X for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:32:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjZyJ-0007ey-N2; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:27:27 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjZyH-0007eS-Il for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:27:25 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GjZyB-00073C-Nr for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:27:25 -0600 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1GjZy6-0000Cg-00 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:27:14 +0100 Original-Received: from [66.225.201.151] (port=37465 helo=mail.jpl.org) by orlando.hostforweb.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GjZy3-0007qe-Jk for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:27:11 -0600 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Hashcash: 1:20:061113:ding@gnus.org::xjccV416RIChJbJO:00004ETH X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EUS4zQp3F3JyfiueCW/iFsN3SNI= X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnus.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63977 Archived-At: Isn't this funny? NNTPSERVER=flab; export NNTPSERVER emacs -batch -Q -eval '(message "%s" (getenv "NNTPSERVER"))' => flab emacs -batch -Q -eval '(message "%s" (gnus-getenv-nntpserver))' => flab emacs -batch -Q -eval '(message "%s" gnus-select-method)' => nil In Emacs, `gnus-getenv-nntpserver' and `gnus-select-method' are defined in loaddefs.el but it is not loaded when Emacs starts. I guess the nil value of `gnus-select-method' was set at the time when I built Emacs. It suggests that the default value of `gnus-select-method' is decided according to the Linux distributions, without minding what is suitable to a user. I don't have an idea to fix this except for removing the autoload cookie. Regards, P.S. XEmacs complains as follows when compiling this autoload: Compiling gnus/lisp/auto-autoloads.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file gnus/lisp/auto-autoloads.el: ** reference to free variable gnus-default-nntp-server ** reference to free variable gnus-nntp-service Wrote gnus/lisp/auto-autoloads.elc